Thats the word for it
I want immersion not spot on as METAR says. And other want it spot on METAR but maybe immersion doesn’t matter that much. I think we should be able to choose what we want. I had much more immersion in the sim at release. Now i can see unnatural weather around airports that i know is coming from METAR (foglayer).
Than it is static most of the time. If you want it perfect go flying in reallife. I want it perfect too, but not of loosing immersions. The must find a healthy mix between metar on ground, immersions at high altitutes and something between. Must be possible in a modern simulation, lots of data in 2022.
Agree, nothing beats that. I’m not a pilot but i love to travel by plane and try to do it as much as i can.
I hope Asobo gets the weather as real as it gets
I think METAR can’t achive that. I hope Asobo can change my mind about that.
They mentioned about more data in live-weather in the future in latest q&a. Wonder what kind of data. Hope not another source of data. 3 different sources will make it even more of a mess i bet.
The thing is. in a game/simulation you can not feel something. no up and downdrafts, wind…nothing. You have to feel with you eyes and listen with your ears. Thats why immersion is so important.
When i go paragliding, which is the real truth of flying, you have to feel, a lot to feel. Totaly different to simulations at home. Maybe after a few beers you feel something…i don’t know😂
I’m really starting to get annoyed at the METAR injected weather. The jolt of a wind change and sudden appearance/disappearance of clouds and precipitation anywhere near an airport with a METAR is just ridiculous
Totally immersion killing
Meteoblue is an excellent weather source. It’s just Asobo that canno handle the data. That’s the reason why weather should be open to 3rd party software houses.
I think the opposite, Asobo can handle the data and they prove it at launch til SU6. Weather rendering was astonishing with room for improvements of course. For me in SU7, they did so many changes in the weather engine to allow METAR integration and optimize performances for XBOX or other reasons, that they lowered quality, clouds ended it up like generic, cartoon type, unrealistic.
Maybe devs are focused on fixing other pieces of the sim more urgent so overall weather improvements is not their priority.
Agree that opening weather to 3rd party would be really nice but so far it is a NO.
On some aspects, live weather has never been accurate since release.
- Low visibility poorly simulated or not simulated at all
- Gusts not simulated at all
- Abundance of cumulus clouds even in hard winter
- Abundance of lightning even in sunny weather before SU6 then complete lack of lightning even during thunderstorms after SU6
- Abrupt wind shifts still there after two years
For sure I’m missing something.
Yes, I agree with your list, but at least clouds rendering and layers were much more realistics in most of the cases and when flying it was an immersive feeling. I have started to look at that forum when SU7 came out because I noticed that something really went wrong, prior that I had no major complaints and was enjoying flying in different weather conditions (even if many things were wrong with wind/lightning, etc…), not anymore.
So true! Yesterday during a flight, I was on approach phase, and suddenly all the weather around me changed. Initially cloudy and rainy, then sunny in just one second! That’s not acceptable. Before SU7 weather was phenomenal (even with some problem). I think I would even pay to have back what we had before.
The topic title is a bit misleading. The opening post was about missing wind data. It turned from a singular data issue to a catch all for live weather not matching reality. I think if these data issues were fixed at the start and live weather matched the forecast, as it was designed to, the remaining location specific inaccuracies would have been inconsequential. Focus could then return to improving immersion and gradually adding additional weather layers such as visibility solely from MB. Pilots don’t file a complaint when weather doesn’t go as planned, they adapt. Still, for those that prefer their weather to remain pinpoint accurate at the airport alternatives exist like Unreal Weather and REX Weather Force. As perrry also mentioned the only issue VATSIM had with MSFS was to have the altitude match.
And that still is an vatsim issue, but vatsim client devs have found a workaround for that issue.
It has never been a MSFS issue because pressure is more realistic in MSFS. That realistic pressure is changes into unrealistic static pressure near METAR airpors. I think they had a simulated weather at release and needed to change that because METAR interfare with that near airports.
If we skip the accuracy part completely at release i think many of us here can agree that the weather felt much more real than now and were amazing.
I wish Asobo could have ignored the complains about inaccurate to METAR as the weather does IRL and focused adding more things from Meteoblue instead and only improve/fix what they had that fits globally everywhere without need of blending.
225@3KTS server bug/issue made them completely change weathersystem
Check the first posts in this thread.
What i also found out. REX and stronger winds at higher altitute has an effect on water, which is correct and realy nice. never seen that with asobos weather.
No not at 30000 feet.
For example. speed on the ground about 10kts and at 20000 feet 40kts. This influences the groundspeed a lot depends on terrain aso…
But they have data for waves that fits the calculations those super computers do. I would love that data affect the waves. But as for snow to me that is not the most important thing. We fly in the air and air should be higher priority.
Maybe meteoblue wave data affect waves already. I have not tested that much.
Would be cool if they could actually simulate a fluid as water but i bet that would cost much performance. CFD for water too
They planning to have a CFD for air 20KM around the aircraft that will have high and low pressure zones. The thing is that 20KM CFD needs to be changed into legacy METAR air near airports to match those. So sad.
Hope they get rid of fixed METAR winds when CFD ambient wind velocity is introduced. They can add METAR wind as a base ambient wind velocity then let it be a fluid that can be varied in both speed and direction depending on what CFD simulates.
Hope they can make the CFD water in the future that can be affected by the CFD ambient air then we will have both simulated air and water fluids. Will make Amphibious aircraft behave correct on water as well.
It’s so much potential with that CFD ![]()
Is this the beta su10?
Yes it is. No CTD on this flight somehow, though was only from Birmingham so very short
Apparently, Asobo claims to have added interpolation of METAR visibility in SU10 beta. All I can see is that the edges of low visibility patch around airport have smoothened out a bit but there’s really no interpolation happening here. 2 airports 100km apart, both have low visibility according to METAR and in sim, but nothing between them. So it’s not really “interpolation” atleast in my dictionary. Also, the low visibility on ground looks like a mask rather than being made up of particles and water vapour which it should be.
Other than that, there’ humidity slider in weather menu now which doesn’t work in live weather. It’s rainy season in the region I live in so naturally one would expect some atmospheric effect due to humidity but nothing in the sim.
Thats a big immersion killer for IFR pilots. And thats the problem with weather generated by metar. Meteoblue has got the informations. Unlimited visibility out of metar and at specific flightlevels is realy bad for a sim in 2022 and after two years. No aerosol, humidity…nothing. Thats why i fly with REX weather. Sure it is not perfect, but the got aerosol and visibility limits, and does not generate snow when it is not reported. May the visibility limitation is only static, but much better than asobos eyecandyweather. Remember…we are still betatesters and will be for the next years. But i guess, they will never sorted out.
