Live Weather Does Not Match

You need to check the top of those clouds, sometimes it looks good from underneath, but the top is the messy CBs

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Absolute mess still at EGBB since SU7. Should be a flat overcast as per the real life webcams.

I just don’t even want to fly, it’s so inaccurate it’s beyond a joke.

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METARs don’t suggest overcast for EGBB.

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Here’s Evesham, a little to the south.

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That shot does look like FEW with BKN above it. The cumulative affect may appear overcast?

You can see from the webcam you posted there is a layer of higher overcast (which would not be detected by metar because it’s too high), it’s also clear by looking at satellite of that area.

What Andy has posted looks nothing like it should, the types, coverage are not correct and it’s the usual over-convective mess we’re so used to seeing now.

This is the problem with giving too much reliance to METAR to draw a picture of the weather. Whilst the values METAR report are very accurate, there is also a lot of information they simply miss out, especially here in UK where their ceilometer detection typically only goes up to 5,000ft, meaning cloud above that does not get reported.

So now we have meteoblue reporting high cloud cover and a METAR reporting only that lower cloud, what we end up with is some mess of cloud that matches neither.

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Kind of funny how people complain now that they are seeing clouds when METAR is reporting none.
That was exactly the issue with the totally METAR based weather engines of the past and it drove me nuts looking outside, seeing a high overcast layer and nothing like that in the sim, because the METAR doesn’t report anything below 5000 feet.

So finally we are nearing a realistic depiction, and people still get this wrong. :wink:

Granted in the example posted it was the wrong type of clouds, but at least there were some as there should have been.

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Fun fact … The UK has the most changeble weather in the world.

You obviously have never lived in Atlantic Canada!!!

No I haven’t but the BBC dedicated a whole program explaining how the UK is at the junction of three contesting weather systems plus the gulf stream … they never mentioned Canada once.

the fun fact is that even in Ireland where I live the weather was always exact in the game for me before su7, stop trolling honestly!

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How is this trolling? Look it up.

We have about the same thing.
Weather from the southern US often follows up the Atlantic Coast, prevailing westerlies give us all of the mid continent weather and then the arctic cold mass likes to move down.
We also have the gulf stream just offshore as well, but that is a lot warmer here, as it loses a lot of it’s heat before it gets to the UK.

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Maybe we should call it a draw? :wink:

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Well, of course, we had it tough. :wink:

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here’s another example, Humberside UK, absolute messy representation in the sims…which was once capable of pre su7
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MFS



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Last year when we were seeing big inaccuracies with the weather, myself and some other users finally tracked down the issue where from 20:00z-08:00z the next day, weather data was completely missing. So when it hit 20:00z, it would load in the weather for 08:00z the next day and therefore the weather would be incorrect because you were seeing the weather for the next day too early.

Since SU7, I’ve had the same suspicion that something similar is going on with the data included, especially seeing as the Meteoblue data was meant to have been improved for SU7. I suspect this data change they’ve made isn’t making its way into MSFS as it should be. I just cant’ quite figure out exactly what’s going on. But it’s clear that it’s not working as it should.

Here’s couple of examples from this morning:

DUBmetar



GLAmetar


EDIMETAR

As you can see, even when the METAR reports cloud cover in these places, it’s not been drawn in. Temps, pressure, wind match up correct. But cloud cover is totally wrong. I’ve included previous METARs so you can also see it’s not a case of it transitioning from clear skies as all 3 airports here have reported cloud for past 2-3 hours.

Yesterday I observed the opposite, low cloud cover when there should not have been, it should have only had high cloud.


My conclusion is there is something bugged with the data once again like we saw last year and I strongly suspect the data is corrupted or missing.

Tried the airports again, now the weather looks different:




Confirms what I thought that data is often missing or corrupt.

Same thing at LKPR today.
METAR LKPR 130730Z 22013KT 9999 BKN034 M01/M02 Q1037 NOSIG=

While I like that they added visibility into the sim, something bad has definitely happened with their weather system/data. The sky is very boring recently. Middle/upper level clouds missing more than half of my flights. Low level clouds are cumulus only, or entirely missing. Overcast stratus layers are nearly nonexistent.
I hope they will fix this with SU8.

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Yeah, the data getting injected is not correct it seems.

It’s hard enough trying to blend a METAR report with meteoblue, but trying to blend incorrect data all together must be even harder - no wonder we see such a mess so often.

Same story in Dublin again right now as it was this morning, as if it’s completely missing its data for cloud despite the live weather working


Yes its complete messed up and doesnt match at no time :wink: :crazy_face:



This is the normal view without fog and exact the same position