Local legends canada

Is the 195 another Carenado style over substance effort?

It is indeed made by Carenado. But i haven’t tried it yet. I like their last effort the V35b.

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Hmm, I’m a big fan of the 195 and I’m sure it’ll look the part, might wait to see what the community thinks first


Instant purchase for me, Canadian or not. Sorry, Canucks.

No float version is a major bummer, though.

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Personally I quite like Carenado planes. So far I’ve bought all their non-taildragger models and enjoyed them. They look fantastic. Sick eye candy for sure. In terms of function and operation, they’re only slightly more detailed than default planes and aren’t outstanding in any way. But they’re definitely not bad.

That said, I tire of these ancient planes. It would be awesome to get stuff that was made in the last 30 years.

I have most of the Carenado aircraft, but they’re a bit vanilla - look great but the physics are a bit suspect, particularly the tail draggers, also if there are problems they can take an age to release an update, as PC-12 users are finding out at the moment.

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Then you’re looking in the wrong series.

I’d be hard pressed to find a plane introduced in the last 30 years I was interested in. More ancient planes for me, please.

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As soon as I saw ‘Carenado’ my interest dropped to -10.

Expect bugs, and expect no one to fix them.

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Every single one of Carenado’s releases for MSFS, including those published as part of the LL or FF series, has gotten post-release patches to fix things. The patches might not have come as quick as some of us would like (and the patches for MS-published planes seem to be slower, whether Carenado is the dev or not), but they do come.

Every time Carenado releases a new plane somebody parrots this line that they never fix stuff and it’s just not true. Maybe it was true years ago but it’s not in the MSFS era.

My only experience with Carenado is in the EX-Plane world, and their track record there is pretty well known. They release a product, take a long time for an update, then take an even longer time to release a follow up update to fix the things they break in the first update, and then basically call it good, and move on.

I’m leery of buying any Carenado product based on that experience. I am likely going to buy the B-35 V-Tail, as it’s only a $15 gamble, and I love the airframe.

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And don’t forget that milviz is doing an otter anyway which is another win :slight_smile:

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Pretty sure they were hoping to put out the Beaver but it wasn’t going to be ready in time, so they grabbed something from Carenado’s back catalog. Either way - I save $15 :wink:

I’m still burned that the An-2 has been ready to go for almost a year now and that hasn’t been able to happen.

they were always a little better in FSX/P3D ( although there was an active community “fixing” their planes via mods )

V35 is pretty solid though - worth the $15

You are correct, the Local Legends planes usually do have some kind of connection to the corresponding WU. The De Havilland Beaver was originally posed to be the Local Legend for Canada, but the team ultimately decided it would be a better fit for the free 40th Anniversary. Jorg spoke about it in the August 18th Q&A, which you can read here.

That being said, as a Canadian I completely understand your sentiment shared here and I will be passing it along. :slight_smile:

That they were used in Canada doesn’t really do it for me personally, especially when you have Canada’s rich aviation engineering history to pick a plane from instead.

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It’s not parroting if you’ve experienced it first hand.

They fix stuff eventually, at a pace that is so near glacial as to appear non-existent, and even then you can’t help but feel lucky if they actually address everything. And of course they never acknowledge or communicate anything at all.

The PC-12 has loads of issues. Will it be fixed? Maybe. The V-35 is pretty good yeah, but the artificial horizon doesn’t work. Will it be fixed? Maybe. You never know with them. Every single plane they’ve put out has remaining issues.

The way you say it, it’s a near inevitability they eventually end up fixing all their stuff, but they don’t. They might bring out a patch to fix the most egregious (read: loudest complained about) problems eventually, and perhaps another if you’re really lucky, and then they just call it a day.

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Particularly ask why they didn’t release the plane as a Famous Flyer rather than a local legend if it has no real connection ?

Probably because the roadmap called for the release of something branded as a “local legend” now, and if they changed it to a FF people would complain about not following the roadmap, because people are determined to get pointlessly grumpy about what things are arbitrarily called.

Canada is getting its (probably) most famous and influential plane for free with the anniversary update. Meanwhile this is another cool plane out there for those who want it. Why can’t we just be happy?

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The Local Legend series is about showing respect for and showcasing the aviation history of a country being features in the World update, this does neither.

So would Canadians rather have their local legend out alongside the Canada WU and have to pay for it, or would they rather get it a few weeks later for free?

Arguably Asobo has shown more respect to the Beaver than they have any other aircraft in the LL series by deciding it was so important that it needed to be in the base sim for everybody.

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Maybe because it was included in previous version of FS