Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 General Feedback

It’s faster to immediately Clear a new profile after you save it and begin with a clean slate than it is to delete all of the conflicts.

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Great - didn’t know we could do that. Since I stil mostly use 2020 i want to make all input bindings as near to the ones I am familiar with on it.

Enjoying the Career Mode a lot, play it almost daily.

Thanks MSFS.

It’s going to be great as you fix the bugs and further develop it over time!

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Cockpit camera:
Absolutely disappointed with camera, e.g. Cessna 172 in real world has much more confined space, but in same time much better observation, in this game you’re sitting like a little person and even any camera adjusting not helping to get out of ADF, so you can see ■■■■ on approach.

Renovated graphics engine:
Without aliasing everything looks like 2005 game. With aliasing - everything washed out soap foam, clouds suffered from this most, now they are some kind of My Little Pony aqua cartoon, messing with settings boiling down to pick one - landscape or skyscape

AI exalted jibberish talks:
That is just annoying

Play scenes in career:
Very frustrating that you can not skip those boilerplate scenes walking and looking at plane and “brifieng” - “Go captain! Deliver VIP service!”

Tons of known bugs including those that were already present in 2020 and never was fixed. And for love of the God, fix already that ■■■■ disappearing cursor, that is just embarrasment.

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Glad its not just me over the past couple of days!
Must be serer issues. I posted the below earlier about my nightmare!

I saved up over 7 Mil to get a ES-30.
I brought a 2nd hand one and spent loads on getting it to an OK standard. 1st flight and engines 1 and 4 just stop. Now ive found out that its unplayable because of the bugs!

Jumped back in my trustee 208B to get some money back doing cargo, and the plane just fliipped on take off!

Couldn’t afford to repair so jumpped in my vision jet.

At the end of the VIP flight, landed but no hold short box. The arrows where there but no box.
So tryed manually asking ATC for Taxi to parking but nothing…
Hoped that I wouldn’t get marked down and all seemed ok until I got to the parking spot.
Again, the arrows were there but no box.

Went to stop where the box should have been, and then it said you’ve crashed!!!

I just Uninstalled 2024.

The game was working much better for me recently. Until yesterday…

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today another disaster on 2024…just trying to taxi is a real chore…the throttles do not react fast enough to control taxi speed…most everything reacts too slow to be affective…when ya’ll get things fixed let me know…until then I’m pretty much done with 2024.

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Britten Norman Blackbox Islander and Trislander dont have power to take off for me . Does anyone have this same problem?
ATR have problems too.

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This game is unfinished and it’s a scam to try and charge $70 for it. This game desperately needed a proper beta test rather than to try and charge people $70 to beta test it.

The amount of bugs I’ve experienced on almost every flight is shocking. Just now I had a cargo flight that tried to have me land with a 20kt tailwind and even though I tried to change the runway and file it with ATC it still demanded I land on the tailwind runway. I landed on the headwind runways anyways and of course I got an aviator performance hit because I did what I SHOULD do, what EVERY pilot tries to do whenever possible. So after taking that hit I can’t announce taxi to parking with the Enter key OR using the Communications tab, so yet another hit to my aviation performance because I had to illegally taxi just to get on with the mission. It then turns out my designated parking spot that I can’t change is in some trees. Okay, it seems like I can fit my plane in the parking spot if I get the angle right so I slowly inch my way into it only to get a failed mission because I crashed, because the trees apparently have hitboxes three times as wide as they actually are.

Three bugs on the same mission.

Don’t even get me started on the pain in the ■■■ that is flight planning because that literally has not worked for me 98% of the missions I’ve flown. EFB flight plans not filing to ATC OR avionics, being forced to climb to 20,000ft in my Cessna 172, sometimes during descent. ATC directions not matching my flight plan.

Performance issues even though I’m running on well below my PC’s capabilities. Failed missions because after landing I get 5 fps and do a runway excursion because my brakes don’t work. Random fps drops in the cockpit.

The DHC-2 Beaver fuel bug, meaning any mission that is too long will result in running out of fuel because the mission only gives you a set amount that you can NOT change unless you buy that bugged aircraft with your company. Requesting fuel truck does nothing. I have to actually cheat by adding fuel with a hotkey just to complete the missions. It doesn’t help that 80% of the cargo and ferry missions seem to be with the DHC-2.

I’m actually astounded there are people that defend this.

This game is not worth even the ~$10.50 via Game Pass, money I can not get back.

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If you have MSFS2020 then fly with it and lay down the Beta 2024 version on a shelf. Try it again over about one or two years. Don’t listen to people who defend this terrible product from MS and let them try to fly with it.

I use it as a alpha/beta test program and fly happily with the 2020 version. :wink:

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If a game doesn’t show a start button after booting up, it’s not even alpha, it’s just garbage.

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Bought it mainly for career mode.
Started playing only after 1st big patch, so missed the launch drama.

Absolutely shocked by the state of the game.
If this would be early access, for a entirely new game, from a small studio, it would be OK.
But for what it is, who makes it, and who is behind it, completely unacceptable.

The ammount of bugs, broken and missing features is mindblowing.
This would have needed at least another quarter, if not half a year to bring to a state worth calling a finished AAA game.

What infuriates me, is that after playing for a few hours, you can just tell it was not finished, tested or polished. But someone decided to dump it on the paying customers now anyway.
Instead of fixing at least the most obvious bugs and finish&polish career mode, as it is the (only real?) one new feature in FS2024.

First disappointment was controller set up. Buttons, stick and pedal axis is fine.
But anything else, like throttle, prop or condition axis is a nightmare.
Preview is not working, all axis are treated as -100/0/+100 like joystick/pedals, but throttle etc are 0/100, don’t need a center deadzone for those, but would reallly need individual end offsets instead…
Was not able to set up my bog standard Thrustmaster throttles with detents and reverser locks to work for 208 Caravan Throttle in many hours of trial and error for example.
Had to use (buy) external program. That did it in 3min.
Move to max throttle, press set, move to idle, press set, move to max. reverse, press set. DONE. Why is that not possible within FS ? Some planes have it on
the build in EFB, why not all ?
Even with external program i was not able to set up propeller 0-100 above, and analog feather below gate (208 again and King Air afair). FS simply does not seem to have a control/variable for that. (analog prop pitch 0-100 and feather or beta below that on one axis).
Im sure i had condition (off, low idle, fllight idle) lever working on an axis at one point, but it does not any more and i can’t find out why)

Simulation of TP’s seems very dodgy in general. (208/PC-12)

Then startet do do some flying and tests/licenses.
Very repetitive, barely a flight without major bugs. The rating “system” is infuriating. You constantly get penalized due to bugs, or in case you actually did something wrong, it won’t tell you exactly what, or how to do it better.
Need fix and major overhaul.

Then started career.
Insane grind, bad economics. Not enough mission (VIP, cargo, medical), they don’t seem to re-generate at all.

Maintenance/wear “system” is absolutely ridiculous. 1000$ for new tire, alright, but then why i have to pay another 1000$ to air it up ???, 12k for “general”…
Yes aircraft stuff is very expansive, but it is also very reliable. Pistion engines have hundreds of hours between overhaul, turbines thousnads !!!
And stuff like avionics does not “wear”, need to update it and check it after certain hours, but usually does not break/wear. Same with lights, most planes in FS have LED’s should last hundreds of hours till they break, no “wear”…
Im fine with needing new tires, brakes or an landing gear inspection after hard landing. Or accelerated engine wear if you don’t do oil change and redline it.
But 20k for flight control damager after 10h in turbulent air, or 300k turbine every 15 flights is mental.
Need fix and major overhaul.

I hate how you have to unlock the world. There is no natural way of doing it, since most missions stay within uncovered area, and you only unlock circle at destination, but not during flyover. It is just another huge money sink and waste of time to send you guy around for 1000$ a pop. (Cost for long trips is mental, IRL maybe 1/10th flying business…)

Half of the things you can change in EFB pre-flight just don’t work.

How is there no filters at all in mission list ?
Mission type, plane/helo, ac type, sort by distance, sort by earning,
sort by distance from pilot/plane position…
Mind Boggling oversight.

Why can’t i transfer planes between companies ?
(Or turn a passenger in to a freight 107 for reasonable fee)

Whole point of career, especially own company is to give feeling of working toward something, building up something you own.
Can’t even select the paint job when spending hard earned millions on new plane, nevermind custom paintjob. And the Avioniks don’t even remember settings from last flight, have to do it over and over again.
Same as when accepting a random employee mission.
Immersion fail.

AI / ATC speech is abysmal. (emphasis, punctuation…)

ATC in general, and especially in career is extremely annoying and useless.
Get penalized in 70% of missions cause ATC bugs out or i can’t get them to do what i need. Don’t decend you in time, way to many handofs, braindead repetitive com to other traffic.

The approaches generated on most missions are hilarious.
Always have to change them to something reasonable manually, which then probably leads to some of the issues with ATC.

Half of airports you get sent to on missions are broken.
Trees where there should not be trees, visible runway you use is not where the game thinks it is. Can’t get in/out of parking due to obstructions.
Mental taxi routes and/or backtracks. The whole stop short when entering/leaving runway is not correct 90% of time, and gets you penalty 50% of time.

ATC, Aircraft and Mission altitude NEVER lines up.
ATC and mission both want you at FLXXX, but you never can satisfy both.
Usually have to do 3-500 below to get mission happy, then ATC is constantly calling you. If you satisfy ATC, you can get issues with mission progress.

Most Planes have severe bugs that make them difficult, annoying or unable to use in career.
PC-12 as example:
Pressurisation not working, kills you >FL180.
Way to high idle thrust, constantly dings you for taxi speed.
Half bank not working, constantly get penalty on med flights due to that.
AT exeeding turbine limits on start/climb. (Assume that + constant brake riding during taxi will increase already insane maintenance even more if you own it ?)
And this is by far not the worst, even my favorite after the Vision Jet.

AT being unable to dial in power setting constantly swinging around target, seems to be a general sim or avionik issue. Altitude and heading capture is also often very intersting. Needs quite some improving of control parameters.

Why is AI traffic in career mode turned of by default every start of game ?

Still can’t seem to do any night flights in career ?
Maybe related to lights being broken even in daytime ?

Numbers (Prices) are unnecessary hard to read.
6700000 vs 6.700.000

Big Warning Messages for low bandwith or no live weather are very annoying.
I can’t do anything about it, every time i checked my internet connection is perfectly fine, it is always a problem server side. So why constantly flash a big warning msg in my VOV, covering intruments ? Small symbol somewhere in a corner would be sufficient.

Don’t like you get always same money for mission type, regardless of plane or actual difficulty. There is bad weather bonus, but it seems random at best. No bonus for speed, or short field. or night, or IFR…

Passive Income does not work at all for me. Had a 107 in good condition sit there with crew on while i was flying employee missions for serveral hours on several days. Zero passive income.
Sold it now. Would have enough to buy own SF-50, but don’t because i think there is not enough VIP missions generating. Did them all days ago as employee, and no new ones come up.

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It’s been holiday in more than half of the world.. I don’t know where you’re from of course but I can tell you that in central Europe which France belongs to people go on holidy for at least 2, often 3 or 4 weeks over Christmas and New Year.

This sim has been released in a strategically extremely stupid time of the year, all above with the responsible people knowing its state. Some things have been fixed so the sim is actually usable. Anyway, nothing more will happen in their office before January 7th. I don’t know if Jan 6th is a holiday in France but regardless of that nobody will even BE in the office before Jan 6th, monday week 2, maybe beside an emergency backup team on alert. This first monday is a coffee and talk day, maybe they’ll have a look at the backlog, if at all.. Tuesday will start with replying emails and more coffee and around midday work on the sim may commence in form of a meeting. The first background fixes which don’t require new sim versions will probably drop monday after and a new sim version in calendar week 4. This is Europe, nobody’s getting fired if they are caught talking.

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The photogrammetry regions must look as good as they did/do in the previous sim. That does not mean downgrading the previous sims appearance to make the new sim not look so bad.

I mean — just fix it! please! and reassure me you have a plan – You may think silence is best but you are wrong.

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there is maybe one thing you forgot to mention, the interior lighting is not working…

but I agree with everything else you wrote, for me, the current state of the game is just a cheap DLC, and maybe not even that…

I somehow fell sorry for buying the Aviators edition…

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Please stop adding new things, just REPAIR what we have now, make it work properly! I know you can do this, just concentrate on the repairs… add the nice planes and stuff later. We want to fly, not to complain!
Thanks for 2024 anyways, we love it and also would love to see it at its best!

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my general feedback is i whish they had concentrated on the flying instead of making it look good while you are on the ground walking around

oh, and it doesnt work for me, vram thing

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I’d critique the game today but I can’t load an aircraft to fly because Microsoft servers are fried on a Sunday afternoon in the US. Bull hockey.

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I have the same problem with the Islander. One reason - there are many others - I am sticking with 2020…which works wonderfully in VR right now.

The dev’s website says the Islander should be coming ‘soon’ for FS2024 but with the current carnage, I wouldn’t bet on it.

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I got it mainly because of the Career Mode, which it turns out is the buggiest mode of them all. Even if I fly in the middle of the night I get no night missions, the flight plan you get for the mission is the flight plan you’ll fly no matter what. Trying to change IFR flight plans in Career Mode bugs it so the mission flight plan no longer knows what’s going on. Even changing VFR flight plans likes to completely mess up the flight plan.

I just flew a charter mission that tried to have me land on a runway in the mountains THROUGH a mountain (again). Tried to change the runway to the other direction but it refused to do so. If I had bothered to complete that mission it would have told me I landed in an undesignated landing area and lowered my aviator performance.

The few times I tried skydiving missions no matter how fast I went (climbing on best possible climb rate then dropping down as fast as the airplane will let me) I still get “you were slow, we are never making money like this”.

Seems the only missions that work relatively flawlessly are the cargo missions.

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We all know that Asobo has to fix a lot of things to get this new sim working like it should be.
Now it’s not in a propper release state, but in a pre-released beta state.

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