Microsoft Sidewinder FFB 2 Joystick App

Both fixed for next version

  1. Trim - real bug, sign got flipped in the pipeline with all the changes. Easy fix, already done.

  2. Spring forces - 30% is always on, and had set the spring strength floor to that (users reported finding stick limp as “odd”). But yes, this does what you noticed. If you reduce spring strength to zero it stays zero through the flight.

    So, more detailed fix coming for this - requires a ramp from 0% spring force at zero airflow to get blended into whatever spring strength the user / profile sets as the airflow increases.

    Needs more validation as this is a physical effect not a boolean. Made the fix, now flying with various planes to see what’s what.

Don’t want to discuss too much support-related items as I want to follow the rules of the forum, so if you want proper support please email me/use the feedback form.

thanks. ill message you as I’m a long time DCS World FFB user and they do it really well so I know what to expect, and also an IRL GA pilot so I know what to expect from that. could be helpful

Please do. Would very much appreciate the help - I’m also just flying various planes and seeing if it “feels” right, but I am not an IRL pilot so have to guess about various things. Some proper help on the tuning would be amazing.. it’s the part I’m having the most issues with.

Math, physics, code etc I can understand/figure out with AI help, but no way to get actual experience in the plane..

RC2 is out.

https://ffb-bridge.com

Full changelog: https://ffb-bridge.com/docs/changelog

SideWinder FFB2 output on Windows now uses raw HID/PID by default, with DirectInput kept as a compatibility fallback

The spring-strength slider now controls the armed spring the way it should.

Autopilot follow is much safer now.

AP follow is off by default for bundled profiles.

AP Authority now lives in the useful low range: 0%–8%, with 5% as the default when enabled

AP-follow spring strength now defaults to 25%.

On stock MSFS, the simulator can still treat physical stick movement as pilot input, so AP follow should be used as a subtle cue rather than a full servo. That lower range is intentional.

Trim behavior got an important fix.

  • Incorrect sign has been fixed; stick now moves the correct way with trim, instead of opposite.

  • Trim relief is worth retesting in RC2. With it enabled, a trimmed steady-state can relax force around the trimmed position instead of continuing to fight the total surface deflection.

I made some pretty big changes to how this works, and would appreciate feedback.Existing saved profiles stay yours, but if you previously tried Trim relief or AP follow and wrote them off, RC2 is the build to try again.

Quick note - I went through the process to become a “Verified 3rd Party Developer” on this forum and just got approved this morning, so will start to publish release announcements once 1.0 releases (soon!).

Mods - (not @ mentioning) - thank you for your help with this. I appreciate you guys helping me figure this out, and make it official!

Cool project, had something like this in mind for a while but never got it started.

Finally grabbed myself a G940 in really good condition for a good price and went through the process of getting it to work well in linux. patched the firmware, build the G940-linux module (had to do some changes for kernel 7.0 first) from chrisboyle. and taddaa, it works!

Than i found your ffb-bridge and i really appreciate you did a linux version and thought of proton, too.

After deleting SimConnect.xml and let your software create a new one (check was green despite of beeing on port500) i got a connection and working ffb in MSFS2024. :star_struck:

You are probably the first person (besides myself) that has tested this with MSFS on Linux (first to tell me, anyway). Have a bunch of X-Plane users on Linux, but that just works natively. So, thank you for confirming this :slight_smile:

Mind sharing what distro you’re using?

Also, this is a real bug, thanks.

Shure! I run a Arch based system, which was originally an EndeavourOS install but got heavily customized over the years. Right now its best described as an Arch/CachyOS hybrid with KDE Plasma on wayland.

Are you familiar with the G940? It seems it has problems with oscillating forces (tested with FFB-Probe, most of them not doing much at all), it produces an ongoing tickling force/sound with around 5Hz with active Sim and FFB-Bridge. Checked “Stick feel” produce strange vibrations/rulbleesk feelings and sounds. Constant Forces seem fine, though. (did not crosscheck on windows and did not use a g940 before)

Please email me at feedback@ffb-bridge.com. I havent’ been able to fully validate the G940 and would love to; we can do deeper troubleshooting via email.

Yes, sounds great, will send you a mail right away

We’re out of beta, we’re releasing on time…

Thank you all so much for your help and support. I hope you enjoy this. Lots and lots of updates, and more to come.

thanks for the :shortcake:

It’s a lie.

Really enjoying the app, though I’m having to make quite a few adjustments. I find the vibrations for takeoff roll to be much too harsh. Just a slight rumble of the ground roll is all that’s needed. I also find the stick too soft after takeoff. There should be quite a bit of tension at these higher speeds so the stick should have pretty decent centering force already, and then even increasing to pretty much max centering force by cruise speed.

Another thing you need is…a business jet profile! I’m about to take off in the new amazing Phenom 300E and realized there’s no profile for a small jet. I’ll have to defer to other IRL pilots here as I’ve never flown in one of those.

All good ideas. I have created a community forum for exactly this - have users discuss their profiles, and you can also share your profile directly from the app, and check out other people’s profiles to download.

Not much there right now, but over time, I hope more people talk about this

https://ffb-bridge.com/profiles

https://ffb-bridge.com/community

If you paste in there we can discuss this in depth. Appreciate the feedback regardless, thanks

Moza AB9 support? Sure, done.

Hmm what about Linux?! That works too, of course!

Many other improvements and fixes. Have fun :slight_smile:

Demo showing the Moza AB9 working in Linux (works exactly the same in Windows as well).

now i want an ab6/ab9 :worried:

While the AB9 is nice and all, I kinda prefer the sidewinder. The AB9 is extremely expensive and you need to be a very serious simmer to really enjoy it - DCS people would love it.

it’s also very heavy and VERY powerful, and you really have to be careful. If that falls off your desk on your foot … it weighs a lot and will absolutely be dangerous.

So yeah, unless you know you really need it (and are willing to spend the money to mount it properly and so forth) .. just pick up a cheap Sidewinder FFBv2 and go flying. Easy to use, not dangerous, and the effects are perfectly cromulent.