MSFS Marketplace Price Increases and Pricing Variation

Dear all,

my name is Michael Wimmer and I am a developer and one of the owners of the 3rd party addon developer RW Profiles. Recently, we noticed a sudden change in how much our product, KSGF Springfield-Branson National Airport, costs on the MSFS Marketplace without us changing the price. According to a recent dev stream, this is due to the new regional pricing scheme Microsoft introduced. However, after we got some reports from friends and other developers, I started to realise that there is more behind the recent increase than regional pricing. Something is majorly messed up with the MSFS Marketplace pricing at the moment and customers often have to pay way more than what we developers ask for. And, in some instances, also way less. This is firstly and most importantly unfair towards customers and I would like more clarity on what’s going on.

What’s actually going on and why I got suspicious, I will outline in the following thread.

Together with another developer I got together and gathered data and evidence for 2 different sceneries to show you that pricing does not match whatsoever across the globe.

For those who do not know the core of MSFS pricing and how it works, here is a quick overview. There really is not much to it. The only thing we developers can do is to set the price for the product in USD; that’s it. Everything else is done by MS.

I will not talk about or go into commissions, fees, or any of the sort in this thread because this is not what this is about. I don’t mind getting a bit less than what I asked for. This is purely because we want fair and equal pricing for all customers, and also because we don’t want that they have to pay more than what we ask for.

The two sceneries analysed are KSGF and EDAQ. In the following table, I have listed the MSFS marketplace price from users of the listed countries and convered them to USD so we can compare it to the price we developers set.

As you can see here, apart from the USA, our products are more expensive in all countries (except for Turkey and KSGF). In addition to that, they are more expensive by a significant amount compared to the set price. The difference is even more obvious if you compare the most expensive country, the UK, to the cheapest country, Turkey, for KSGF: the difference is almost 5 USD! (4,94 USD)

But it doesn’t stop there and gets even more confusing: let’s talk taxes.

So, in Austria we have 20% VAT (value added tax). In Sweden, for example, they have 25% VAT. However, the marketplace price is the same at 21.74 USD. So if taxes played a role in this, the scenery should be 5% more expensive in Sweden compared to Austria, but they are the exact same price.

In addition to that, the VAT in Italy is 22%, so 2% more than it is in Austria. Meaning the scenery should be 2% more in Italy than it is in Austria, right? Well, in reality, it is actually 11% cheaper!

This means that the different VAT values cannot be the reason for the price variations.

Let’s move on to an even more bizarre observation: Turkey. Turkey is the only place where KSGF is actually cheaper in USD than the asked price of 17.99 USD at 16.99 USD. I would understand this because of the current inflation rate of Turkey, however, if we now compare KSGF to EDAQ, it again doesn’t add up anymore. In Turkey EDAQ is actually more expensive than the set price and, in fact, it is the most expensive out of all countries analysed at 14.53 USD.

So, in short, KSGF costs 94%, and EDAQ 121% of the asked price set by the developer. A fluctuation of 27%!

It gets even more confusing if we convert this to €. With the current exchange rate 17.99 USD, the set price for KSGF, are 16,62€. However, KSGF costs 20.09€ for countries in which the marketplaye is set to € (except for Italy where it costs only 17.99€) This shows us 2 phenomena: first, the price in the same currency, Euros, varies from country to country. Secondly, even though Italy has 2% more VAT than Austria, the scenery is 11% cheaper.

Even if we account for VAT, KSGF should be 19.95€ in Austria, not 20.09€, and in Italy 20.27€, not 17.99€.

I expect a few % variation between countries due to exchange rate fluctuation, but as you can see, the prices vary within 23% and 21% for KSGF and EDAQ respectively.

As a developer, and especially for customers, I would appreciate if Microsoft and the Marketplace team could comment on this and explain where these vast variations come from. This is unfair for customers and also for us developers because customers are paying way more than we want them to pay! Currently, in the EU some customers have to pay almost 4€ more than what we ask them to pay! This is not right and needs to be rectified!

Edit:
Today I received another report of the prices being different even within the same country. This is also discussed further in the comments, but I wanted to add it to the overview here, too.


(Both pictures taken from simmers in the UK, no VPN)

EDIT: I would also like to encourage you to report back what the price of these two addons (KSGF and EDAQ) is for you in the Marketplace. I will then update the list and add your respective countries to it. The more data we can get the better! :slight_smile:

If you do report, please report country, platform, and a screenshot of the Marketplace page. Thank you very much in advance!

Best,

Michael Wimmer.

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sad to see this, typical microsoft

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USA doesn’t have tax included, which is usually between 5-10%, depending on state - it’s added at checkout. Still often cheapest in the US though, even after tax.

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Thank you for reporting this - good to know because here in Europe for example taxes are not added on top of the price shown in the marketplace.

but then again, this still doesn’t explain the Turkey situation and why the same scenery is 3€ less in a country with the same currence and more VAT haha.

I really don’t understand what’s going on.

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Already added. You said it was 16.99 USD and 10.99 USD without TAX.

Sorry my bad

Welcome to the UK !!!
For years, infact we are quite used to it, any tech costing say 20 bucks USD will be priced at 20 pound sterling in the UK. But that is actually 25.50 USD.
To us here in the UK this is ‘normal’. It has been happening for many years in all kinds of industries, phones, laptops, software.
What you have shown is just a different variation on a situation we have lived with here for years. When I was traveling regularly to the US I would buy my tablets there.
Thanks for highlighting.

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Well that has partially to do with VAT too, though. iPhones for example are also way cheaper in the US than the UK/Europe in general because of VAT.

But yeah the point still stands - as I have proven here this cannot be because of VAT due to the Austria and Italy discrepancy.

I really want to know how this random pricing is made up as this is more than unfair for customers all around the world.

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It’s crazy that all the countries that use the Euro, don’t have the same price. I thought that was the point of the currency in the first place!

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Adding on to this, I just got a report from someone that KSGF is 14.99 GBP for him. But at the same time a friend of mine has it displayed at 16.89 GBP

So same country, same currency, 1.90 GPB (2.47 USD) difference!

How is this possible? And I didn’t want to go that far but I have to ask the question: how is that even legal?

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I noticed higher prices recently when they started Top-Rated Aircraft Sale. Discounted prices were almost the same as normal prices for the same products available on 3rd party stores or directly from developers. Thankfully PC users are not limited to Marketplace but there is a risk 3rd party stores will follow and prices will increase everywhere.

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There’s definitely a lack of transparency and consistency over regional pricing, which in turn is leading to a fair amount of negativity among the community.

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The thing is I wouldn’t even call it regional pricing. It is just a mess. Because even if regional pricing was a thing, there is no way that the same scenery should be a different price in the same currency and let alone the same country.

Different countries, fine. But same country different prices? Sorry but that is just unfair.

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It’s normal they would differ instead, because each country has a different VAT.

It’s not really different than the US: due to different Sales tax for each State, the final price you’ll end up paying for the same thing priced the same originally, will be different depending where you are buying.

However, some cases like Austria being more expensive than Italy even if VAT is lower in Austria, are puzzling.

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Exactly. Like I proved in my post VAT and taxes have nothing to do with the price variations. It seems completely random. And the fact that wew just found out prices vary within a single country strengthens this theory further.

Ahh ok, I wasn’t aware that the EU changed that VAT is now charged per consumer location, rather than physical location of the seller. I mean, it was only 9 years ago! :rofl:

I’m based in the UK, where we normally pay more for everything…well, with the exception usually of Switzerland.

Just check that neither of them has a VPN running. Otherwise that finding is very odd for sure.

No VPNs were involved afaik.

That was me who sent you the price on Discord. Confirmed no VPN.

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