After the last update this Helicopter is still very very bad, AP upper modes still not done and are crucial for this aircraft in SAR operations.
I don’t know if this is a problem of Microsoft or the third-party developer.
G.
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From what was communicated it’s a problem with the first party developer (HPG) as the guys who created the helicopter left the team.
Now there are some new guys working on it and the update now was their first release. Most likely they still lack some experience to get all things working in time.
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HPG have released a statement on what’s been going on at: An Update From HPG – Hype Performance Group
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I opened a thread in Discussion Hub > General Discussion so we don’t clutter this thread with reactions to their announcement.
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A post was merged into an existing topic: An Update from HPG Regarding the H225
Although MSFS2024 is much better since SU4, there are still too many aircraft in the sim that just don’t come up to scratch. I won’t make the full move over from MSFS2020, until they are sorted out. Indeed, I’m so frustrated with MSFS that I’ll be giving the sim a rest for a while.
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I bought two copies of the 225 from HPG when it was in early access to support the developer. It saddens me that their team is having these experiences. Thank you for the work you have done, and I wish you all success in the future.
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Yeah I know, glad a new team is taking over the H225.
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It flies better than before with this update, than the release version.
It can be flown very well now like or better than other helicopters in FS24 already, It has a good flight model without AFCS, it was frequent also to disable the AFCS for me in the H160/145 for a more “sportive” haha, funny mode without those interferences, and the H225 already without AFCS is very precise (better than the H160/145) and it has some sort of a autotrim still, that make this helicopter easier to fly/cruise than the Huey or R66. And it is more heavy and with more inertia, a surprise yesterday with the well flight model done there for me.
The major problem and nº1 to solve, for me also, is that you can´t go over ~110knots and at around 85 you need to decrease collective gradually to not rise the nose, and you can still do cruises at 110 stable and precise, more than other default helicopter in FS24.
This helicopter is a dream in 1~2 years when it has all wishes and bells working, would be my first FMS IFR flight with an helicopter like planes. And also a dream for to have in FS24 the H160/145 and their autopilots etc..
The H160/145 AFCS could be better, are very good now but I thought always that could be better-smooth-precise-wise in advance and less, like, robotic-intrusive?, I don´t know if that was for using their own flight model inside FS20?. So the new team have margin even for to do a new AFCS better, and I think maybe the best AFCS nowadays is in the Miltech MH60.
Maybe a trick is, before press “ready to fly”, wait till all its systems are loaded, and then the no AFCS warning in the screen doesn´t appear.
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nice flying there!
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So, with the updated H225 available in career, I’ve started working up my certifications. And I think I spotted something that’s quite disappointing.
I flew a number of basic passenger transport missions with the H225, and it’s got all the stability I expected from owning the HPG H145 and H160. Not quite the same level of avionics, but the stability is there pretty much as I expected.
I ranked up enough to start SAR, and went ahead and created a company and purchased a SAR H225. And suddenly the stability seems dramatically reduced. It’s got the automatic trim I expect, but still needs more frequent adjustments.
So, we’ve already observed that the flight model is dramatically changed from before SU4, the hard nose up at 100kts demonstrates that. But I’m thinking MS/Asobo also dumbed down the stability controls for the SAR model to make it more challenging.
Now, maybe it was just stronger winds, or the fact that I was flying in mountains and doing some harder maneuvering. And I’ve only done one SAR mission so far. I’m not an expert in the H225, or even helicopters, by any means. But it was much more difficult than I expected, and I paid for a 9 million Cr. aircraft because of it’s advanced capabilities.
Anyone else try both passenger and SAR models yet, and notice a difference? Anyone else trying career missions with it?
There has been a severe regression in stability and quality with SU4 for the H225. I do not think a deliberate “dumb down” but more a generic problem with the code itself for this helicopter. While the SU4 update contained a significant list of updates for the H225, it also contained a severe list of new bugs introduced that are quite serious. With the pull out of HPG I fear this heli will be “U/S” for quite a while. But I really hope we can get a statement from MS/Asobo or even a community manager on this forum about this problem.
Edit: Reading up on what happened at HPG, about the source code ownership, removal of features in SU4 because of those problems. I am looking forward to MS/Asobo sharing insight in the path forward now the project has been transferred.
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The collective is still not working. Using developer mode, I verified the correct input event and configured my collective controller with Mobiflight. As soon as I move the collective, while there is no visible movement, the inspector tab data shows very very slow movement.
Obviously the collective is working for most of us trying to fly the H225, so you probably need to focus on how your system might differ from the rest of us. Usually, that means control bindings. I’d suggest you unplug all your devices, create new (empty) profiles, and start adding in things one by one. And if you want additional support here, you’re probably going to need to provide more details about what device(s) you have, what the collective axis is bound to, etc. And you might want to have that discussion in a Community Support thread.
Well, my collective controller is a homemade device using an Arduino board and configured with Mobiflight. It does not appear as a controller in the MSFS control settings menu.
ALSO, using the default mappings in the MSFS control settings menu with my Xbox controller, I see the same behavior.
Also tried assigning the collective axis through the controls menu to an axis on my Honeycomb Bravo with the same result. There is still something obviously broken.
Okay - in all my searching what I hadn’t found was that the engine needs to be running in order for the collective to move. That definitely seems to be a bug to me.
I don’t think it’s a bug. It would be really difficult to move the collective without power to the hydraulic system.
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If the collective is actually hydraulic, and I know that some helicopters are set up that way, then requiring the engine makes sense. Unless the hydraulic pumps are powered separately.
Does anyone know of a time frame for the full auto pilot features?