[MSFS2024] Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan EX

The whole UI is messed up. FS2020 was more intuitive on this point.

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This plane, like other broken msfs planes, has a misaligned center of gravity and a bad flight model (even adding cargo weight). The pitch moves overly when the throttle is up and down and the overall is sux
another totally borken msfs aircraft

Sometimes it acts like a small ship fighting against the high waves in a storm. And that’s with clear skies and no wind on autopilot.

Third party liveries are non-functional in general right now.

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I was coming here with the question you already answered. Started flying in career and going through icing conditions I lost air speed indication and looked at the wings to check for ice build up. There wasn’t any but turning on all of the de-icing systems including the pitot heat solved the air speed problem.

Went on to do further testing in free flight, and there I could start to see some icing effect but mostly going through very dense clouds and with OAT between 0 and -10°C (there seems to be quite an abrupt limit where outside these temperatures there is no build up at all).

Experimenting with the de-icing equipment I also observed no difference in terms or ice reduction on the airframe, the other systems worked fine.

Also worth mentioning, in the free flight testing I was using “2 clicks” of increased sim rate, hopefully there is no difference there

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Hi,

Thank you for this post.

I have tried tried a long flight, I did get the throttle up to 100% for literally a minute or so at take off, propeller was 100% the whole time, but I very quickly reduced the throttle to only 75% and flow like that, and my respect aircraft condition score was something like 91%.

I think with my last post, my engine was already pretty cooked, hence why I was having so many issues, but your advice is sound.

I think I will be a lot more careful with the engine on this plane going forward.

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well, Asobo somehow managed to screw up the Throttle 1 Axis (0 to 100%) for the Caravan.

unlike every other plane with reversers, where Throttle Axis (0 to 100%) allows you to use a throttle with reverser detents (like the TCA Quadrant), the Caravan doesn’t have ReverserInAxis set in the config file (which we could fix if it wasn’t encrypted and streamed
).

this means that the bottom 30% of that axis (which should be beta/reverse) does nothing – so you have to perform annoying workarounds as listed in the other replies.

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“the only correctly modelled Asobo aircraft in this game.” fixed that for you.

in fact, the C172 (which Asobo obviously spent the most time on because it’s the aircraft most casual gamers will fly) is quite overperformant compared to the real thing (again, because they want the average gamer to have a good experience with their main noobmobile).

by contrast, the IniBuilds aircraft are astonishingly good by MSFS default standards, within a cat’s whisker of study level, and the Carenado aircraft are as expected from that developer (nice 3d model, basic but at least mostly functional system model).

So you wouldn’t notice a difference in the real aircraft either, until you pull the power to idle. All the condition setting does is closes some of the injector nozzles at low power settings. When you power up they all open regardless of the condition lever position. The big problem with leaving it in low all the time would be in landing. if you’re used to chopping power at 50 feet for example- if the handle was in low condition you’re going to have a really quick drop and likely a hard landing.

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I’ve been having an issue where the aircraft wants to “wobble” on landing. That is, it oscillates in a left/right roll on touchdown. Usually not enough to cause it to tip, but I’ve had some bad crosswind landings that did result in a wing-down tip before.

Is this a characteristic of the aircraft, or am I doing something wrong on landing? I only have this happen on the 208b.

it’s the well known C208B-attempts-to-kill-you-on-landing-in-Career-Mode bug. many posts about it up above. curiously, it doesn’t exhibit this behaviour in Free Flight.

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I suspect it’s how the Caravan flight model is interacting with the Career mode’s weather settings. The gust interval in Career is way too high, and the turbulence is also exaggerated. Maybe the Caravan is using the new CFD flight model which reacts badly to these conditions. The Sky Courier, on the other hand, is much more stable and controllable in the same Career mode missions.

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that had occurred to me too, as a possible explanation for the Caravan’s inability to keep a NAV path without dutch rolling all over the place, despite having the same drop-in autopilot logic as every other plane (probably written with the simpler, older flight model in mind). that’s a charitable explanation for a very annoying feature, to be sure, but it does hold water.

Don’t forget: when you set your physical throttle almost at 0% (on final, over threshold, etc.) in FS24, you’re actually setting your Caravan throttle in beta range! I have the impression that some of the comments I’m reading sound like they have set their Caravans in beta inadvertently.

This new functionality has not been announced or explained, and I think it has not been implemented in any other turboprop.

I’m using a magnet in that position in my throttle as fake detent to avoid this situation.

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After crashing in career mode at landing and paying 1.7 million for repairs I trained landing in freefly and was really confident. Landed on small tiny grass airfields. No problem!

So I tried to do a nother medium cargo with my 208 and crashed it again. Now I have to grind 2 million for repairs


Right now I’m really disappointed.

so, you’re saying bottom of the Caravan’s axis settings (without enabling reversers) is beta? that’s a terrible decision on Asobo’s part if so. i thought the beta setting was the lower 20% of reverse, which is how every other plane with reversers works (for instance, the Pilatus PC-12). i also thought that 0% throttle was ground idle (which it absolutely should be). i’ll have to test this.

FYI this has been discussed in quite some detail in this thread. Here’s a link to my reply illustrating the throttle axis behaviour and some reasoning behind it. Cessna 208B Prop Speed at Idle - #24 by SwellSundew4587

You can check it by looking at the labels next to the throttle. And obviously the speed during the taxi.

As I mentioned, as far I know it’s the only one turboprop with this feature implemented. The rest do not have it included.

the bottom range of the Pilatus PC-12’s reverser axis definitely behaves like a beta range. it’s slower than ground idle, without actually going into reverse.

anyway, this post (a followup to yours from that thread) seems to contain the solution (at least for people with the TCA throttle):

Sorry, are you refering inside the sim or in reality? I would be surprised if Carenado has implemented it in one of their addons.