… and in Switzerland 
Seems like the devs have spread themselves a bit thin. There’s been no real change in xbox related bugs, as I imagine they’ve been focused on getting the PC version back up to speed (which is fair, xbox bugs have been mostly stable).
It seems a tad frantic that on the eve of the release of a new aircraft the devs announce they are pushing it back “a few weeks” in order to iron out some bugs. Surely something that is going to take a “few” weeks to sort out is more than a bit of a tweak and must have been apparent for some time. This is why we are becoming exasperated. Things are either released, riddled with bugs, or else are cancelled at the last moment when it becomes apparent that QC isn’t prepared to pass it.
This is another example of marketing opening its big mouth before the coders are ready and putting them under huge pressure to get something out the door with an unrealistic timetable. I think it is this scenario that leads to most of the issues we are continually seeing with the title.
Atleast they learned to better delay it and release it in a better state than rush it out of the door. I appreciate this way. But yes, announcing releasedates months in advance was never a good idea.
Most serious 3rd party developers learned this in the past years and just say “its ready when it is ready”.
Their marketing should adjust to that, indeed.
I do care, so dont speak for me please.
Did you just reference Aerosoft as an example for timely communication and project management? That is hilarious!
They are the masters of delays, radio silence and cancelled altogether projects.
August is “hardcore holiday month” in Europe, basically nobody’s at work, minimum staff everywhere. MS has announced a release date and I suppose they simply didn’t check back with Asobo and now they have the situation that nobody’s there and the things’s not ready.
Same problem with the xbox release dated for late July with developers being on vacation right after. So here we are with issues over issues and nobody there to fix them. All MS can do now is wait.
I definitely care.
Even Asobo can’t make their planes work on the sim they built. It’s been a messy first year.
Postpones raises expectation
Teaser said Sep 7th. Then Jorg said Sep 9th and now this announcement of “few weeks” postpone.
Big risk of cognitive dissonance when it becomes available.
I know quite a few projects from my time with FSX from them that were delayed. But I cannot remember a single one where the release was canceled a single day before the planned date. I also got to know Mathijs as rather communicative.
So while they might not be perfect either they are far better on that regard than what is on display here.
It was initially planned to come in august but WU6 and the Ju were then delayed two weeks to the 7th. So there was a delay already. But it doesn’t matter now does it? We can just wait and vote with our wallet but I think we are too weakminded to do it. I know i am when Ju finally comes
To stay on the positive side, we can get a highly detailed plane with no bugs, but if they release it know its might be unflyable.
Buyers of Premium version should get this plane for free.
Why? I’m a buyer of the premium deluxe and see no reason why I should get it free. Deluxe and premium deluxe is not some kind of season pass, I (and everybody else) got what I (we) paid for. Bugfixes for those deluxe planes are another matter and I expect those sooner or later.
If Carenado would bring the Ju we would need to pay. Why is Asobo as a developer of additional planes any different.
I‘m grateful that we get the world updates for free and think that this is even more than we are entitled to for free.
Does anybody know which versions of the Tante Ju are going to be included?
(The Trailer only shows the three bladed, P&W powered version but i do remember a interview where Jorg said there will be other versions too, i just cant find said interview again…)
“Hold the line! Stay with me! If you find yourself alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium, and you’re already dead!” -Maximus
if the the plane is delayed a few weeks it won’t change the rotation of the earth, alter the course of human events, or create general mayhem anywhere but in a few basements and rec-rooms.
What I can say is that’s a possibility we may get an original panel. The model creator did that for XPlane at least. Look for OLX2Sim Ju-52 for XPlane and you’ll see a version with original panel. Floats I don’t recall if he did it. I guess there is some screenshots in this thread up above.
Is there any kind of information on the type of Ju-52 being modeled? Is there any online available manual/POH or something similar? Now that we have got a few weeks, I’d better put them to good use!
It’s possible a seaming looking superficial bug in a testing round, that when traced to it’s roots appears to be a massive destructive one.
If the code lies deep, and a single number, which is used by hundreds of calculations in other places which on their turn are also used by hundreds of calculations, a lot of rework is needed, which can take weeks, or sometimes even months.
And yes, these things can happen one day before release (20+ years experience in development in big complex projects).
In fact, it should be rather relieving for delaying that much. Because if it was released with that bug, with the thought it possibly is a simple quick fix, could have resulted in weeks of flying with something in it’s definition broken. Current state of affairs with some on the forum… well yeah… rather delay.
The conversation probably went like this:
Dev team: We still have a few very very minors issue, but we could still release on time and patch it in 2 weeks as the issues are tiny and will not effect most people
Management: Have you seen how toxic and entitled and over the top the MS forums are ? Unless the aircraft is 100% correct with zero flaws whatsoever on it’s very first release it will create a furore. We are going to delay it.