If I bing for pictures Ju52 cockpit, the pictures look like that.
if it is payware,then i stay awayâŚfirst they have to fix the x-box mess from last downgrade of the SimâŚthe Sim look´s still not good as before.
it is no more fun to fly as it is nowâŚ
so not one cent more,before that wat i have buy work.
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Can you show some sources? From what I see it is very close.
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Itâs just very modern gauges for an old plane. Perhaps they do exist with updated avionics, but to me the fun of flying a plane like this is flying it the old way.
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They modeled it after an existing, updated plane still flying. It IS accurate. But it is recreating a renovated version.
The gauges are in new conditions, but steam gauges have been around since the 30âs. I guess they have added HSI and DME to make it more interesting to navigate.
When I showed the trailer for the JU-52 to my Swiss friend he told me about this crash.
He says theyâre no longer in service in Switzerland after this accident.
According to
paragraph " Local Legend I: Junkers JU-52"
the price will be 14,99 $
For Europe, gamescom 2021: GroĂe Updates fĂźr den Microsoft Flight Simulator
almost identical 14,99 Euro from September 7th on onward.
I will certainly look forward to it, would even be worth (to me) to consider upgrading from Gamepass to Ultimate (where itâs hopefully included).
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Yes. Will cost 15 dollars.
Yes, was a big thing here in switzerland. An accident that possibly could had been avoided, if the responsible safety authority would have listened to the concerns about these flights that they got before the incident and took the necessary action. Thats why in the final report, a certain resposibility for the accident goes to that authority aswell.
The airlines remaining fleet is grounded for now. For maintenance and to take the necessary steps to get âairworthyâ again. They plan to fly again atleast.
The pilots were Ex-Military pilots and were known for kind of âDangerousâ flying and not respecting certain rules. One of the pilots bodies still had a letter in the pocket from the authority in Munich, where he was asked to make a statement as he did not respect the minimum flying altitude when flying over Munich⌠They will never get an answerâŚ
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Yes, that is true to some degree: the remaining JU-52 are currently âgroundedâ. I guess for further inspection and until additional safety measures have been added (if any additional measures are required - I am not familiar with the investigation results of the crash, nor whether a final conclusion has already been drawn!).
But I think the company wants to resume their offered scenic flights at some point again (given the financial feasability and that the existing two JU-52 can be made fulfill all required safety measures):
But according to their website that doesnât happen âbefore spring 2023â.
On a brighter side I vividly remember âTante Juâ (âaunt Juâ) flying over our home town, as our town lay âon the nav lineâ between DĂźbendorf (LSMD - the âbaseâ of the JU-52s) and the alps (to where one of those scenic routes was leading to).
They were really low flying and had a distinct, loud - and deep - engine sound. As a kid you knew it immediately by heart! I donât know how often they flew (daily? on the week-ends?), but especially during summer time the JU-52 was a âcommon sightâ.
Thatâs crazy: we are talking about the mid 80ies (my teenage days ;)), but âTante Juâ has been flying much longer already. Well, childhood memories nevertheless 
UPDATE: I just realised:
According to this page there must still be three JU-52 existing (in Switzerland). The page also talks about a âcomplete restaurationâ. It could be that the service is only profitable if they have at least three flying JU-52. Because up to know I thought they already had just three JU-52 (of which one was completely destroyed during the crash). So perhaps they had a fourth one, but not in flying conditions? And now they are trying to restaurate that fourth one (and the other ones at the same time as well)? Does anyone know where this âfourth JU-52â comes from? Or did they always have a âspareâ fourth JU-52?
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Where did you get that info (or impression) that the âUltimateâ edition owners of FS 2020 would get the JU-52 âfor freeâ? To my knowledge also previously released airplanes by Asobo / MS had to be paid (albeit for a very fair price like around 10-20$) by everyone.
Or was that just âwishful thinkingâ?
And now that Iâve just checked: what are you referring to anyway when saying âultimateâ? Is there an âultimate gamepassâ or something? Because the paid editions for FS 2020 are:
- Standard
- Deluxe
- Premium Deluxe
(There is no âUltimateâ edition).
And from how I see it âyou get what you pay forâ, even with the Premium Deluxe edition: once you purchased that one (which includes a couple of additional airplanes and airports) you have to pay for any subsequent offerings like anyone else going forward. At least that is my understanding (and I do own the âPremium Deluxeâ edition: for nothing more than to âfund the projectâ ;)).
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HB-HOS gets maintained and should fly again, somewhen⌠Next year mabe.
HB-HOP will go to the museum, its owned by switzerland itself, so basically it is stateproperty.
HB-HOY belongs to a german assosiation and is displayed in germany.
So, theres that. If we are lucky, atleast one will fly again, somewhen. If passengers are confident enough to fly with this airline again⌠We will see.
Btw, HB-HOS gets restaurated/maintained in LSZR St. Gallen Altenrhein, which is also part of the WU6 as detailed airport. And its my local airport.
The âJunkers Flugzeugwerkeâ moved from DĂźbendorf to LSZR St. Gallen Altenrhein and with it, the mentioned HB-HOS from JuAir.
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The problem with accurately replicating historical instruments in the sim is that the navigational aids of the time in many cases are no longer active. Thatâs why PMDG disabled the old radios (theyâre in the plane, just not active) and added some newer equipment in their DC-6.
If there was a 100% accurate 1940 period panel, youâd be pretty much stuck flying VFR for the most part anyway.
They could have replicated the original gauges, though. I get what youâre saying.
FWIW, IL-2 Sturmovik has a great Ju-52 with a 1940s cockpit and the sim is on a massive sale this week. ($7.49 for the sim which is an absolute steal, $6.24 for the Ju-52, which is normally $24.99.)
It can be confusing because these products handle things differently. Forza, for instance, includes a Car Pass and a Season Pass with its most expensive versions, so you get most or all add-ons with those. But for MSFS, the Deluxe/Ultimate versions donât include later content, just the extras that come in the intial download. So you get the additional planes and airports that are included at release, but future paid add-ons are not included for free.
As for Game Pass, the Ultimate version doesnât include add-on content. It includes Game Pass, Xbox Live, and PC Game Pass, all in one bundle.
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Where is Il-2 on sale?
Just watched the report on the Ju-52 crash. Tragic and so sad. The accident report was done fantastically, with info of great use to real pilots but presented in a manner thatâs understandable to non-aviation experts.
In the sim, would love to see someone do a repaint of the Libyan Clipper, a Ju-52 captured and flown by the Royal Australian Air Force in 1943.
On their website. The Battle of Stalingrad standard edition is $7.49, and the various other modules are all discounted as well. The Great Battles series is the new engine with the fantastic VR support. Desert Wings/Cliffs of Dover is the older engine updated by an outside developer, but it recreated some fascinating history. My great uncle died flying a Wellington for the RCAF in WW2, and I can recreate the kinds of missions he was flying, in his plane, in Desert Wings.
The Collector Planes can be used in any of the Great Battles flight modules. The P-38 and Hurricane are awesome.
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Is this the first tri-Motor plane, wondering how this will work with controllers with only two sticks? Looking forward to this one.
Itâs a beautiful airplane, I do love the classic post WW2 era aircraft and the 2008 era of aircraft for my favorite types of aircraft because they had really interesting aircraft in those two eras I do think that the 2020 era aircraft are just knock off version of aircraft from the 2008 era trying to be to modern making the modern ones too dull and boring because your just having the computer fly the plane where planes like the JU and Tri motors your more connected of the plane
It seems a pity that the developers had to choose the âlovinglyâ named âTante Ju,â the Junkers Ju-52, as their first Local Legend.
It was of course flown by Lufthansa, SAA, and other airlines, but itâs perhaps more well-known to the rest of the world as the aircraft that featured at the beginning of Leni Riefenstahlâs infamous propaganda movie Triumph of the Will â flying throâ clouds to stirring Wagnerian style music, carrying Adolf Hitler, lovingly shown at the aircraft window looking down on the world, before landing in Nuremburg for the 1934 Nuremburg Nazi Party Rally.
Later, it was the chief transport plane for the Nazi invasions across Europe and Scandinavia and into Russia, then in the invasions of the Balkans, Greece, Crete and North Africa.
âLocalâ to some, maybe, but not so local to much of the world, nor so lovingly remembered âŚ
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Oh please. It is an aeroplane like any other.
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