PC-6 All Variants Transponder is Non-Op

[NixonRedgrave]

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No

Brief description of the issue:

Since around SU10 beta or before, the transponders in the PC-6 aircraft remain dark and cannot be operated by the user.

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Load into PC-6 of choice, power up aircraft and avionics, observe dark Transponder and attempt to power it on. Note it remains dark.

PC specs and/or peripheral set up if relevant:

Xbox Series X

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

SU10 beta

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[Hester40MT]

Hello @NixonRedgrave,
I’ve received a message from QA regarding your report. They were unable to reproduce using the Pilatus PC-6/B2-H4 Turbo Porter.

Could you or others provide more information about this?

Thank you.

[NixonRedgrave]

This is concerning to me. The transponder has had a non-op display for several versions of the sim — SU10 beta, SU10, SU11 beta, SU11, AAU1 beta.

The fact that QA (I assume at Asobo?) is unable to reproduce this means that there is some sort of version variance between public versions of the sim and their own. I don’t know if this is occurring due to end-user config/airplane state files getting corrupted that are not being rebuilt/refreshed on sim updates, or if it is a localization (English vs. French, for instance) issue, etc., but is alarming that we have “different” versions here.

It begs the question, “What else are they unable to reproduce or have diminished at their end due to thinking it isn’t an issue when what they have is behaving differently than what we have?”

What is further bothering is that I wrote this up as a bug during SU10 Beta. What? They didn’t ask for clarification then? Why not? Why am I participating in betas writing up bugs if they aren’t worth following up on, at the time? This is disrespectful of my(and all of our) time and efforts.

It is 4:30 AM here, realizing all of what I just wrote agitated me so much that I got up and made a clip of it:

This video was created on an Xbox Series X. However, I also just tested it on my PC, which only has the Marketplace B247 & DC-6 installed (both of which are not on my Xbox) and it happens on PC, as well.

Xbox

Here are other references to the issue:

[Xbox] Asobo PC-6 transponder inoperative (all variants)

Hello console simmers, Ever since Asobo updated their PC-6 (whenever that was), the transponder on all variants is inoperative. Does anybody else have this issue? I’ve ensured all breakers are closed and both avionics busses are on. The Garmins function just fine, but the transponder doesn’t turn on. Completely unresponsive. Not even starting on a runway helps. Anybody else have this issue? I pressed the standby button, but nothing happens. [image]

Pilatus PC-6 Transponder

Probably me, but I can’t figure out how to turn this on. I’ve tried every switch and button ; the radios and ADF and everything else is powered but not the Transponder. I found a two year old bug which said it only turns up if you start on the runway but not if you start from cold. Is this fixed ?

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/pilatus-pc-6-steam-gauge-transponder-not-powering-on/531655

Pilatus Porter: Swiss Army Knife of the Skies

I love this aircraft! What a beast! I was flying the Asobo PC-6 yesterday for a bit, it’s not bad, but I got annoyed when I ran into the bug (also reported elsewhere on this forum) where the transponder just will not turn on when you attempt a cold&dark start. So I got the Milviz one on a whim. Done several flights now, and it’s phenomenal. Definitely looking forward to the Stage2 update too!

[tyrodes]

As a work around, if you set “BatterySwitch=True” in the apron.FLT file then the transponder can be turned on. Not really cold and dark, but its about as close as you can get.

[NixonRedgrave]

Unfortunately, that isn’t an option on Xbox.

Thanks for the tip, though!

[ImposteToad]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

• I have noticed the same issue. It is not possible to turn on the transponder when starting from cold & dark.
  Xbox Series X
  On Version 1.30.12.0

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• In my case, the transponder is working when starting on the runway

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[PlzNoCrash9950]

The transponder works correctly if you start on a runway, but attempting to start the plane from Cold and Dark (At a ramp) is when you get this issue.

[RingingEars1970]

This really needs to be fixed. What an annoying little bug. I you start from the runway you can turn it on off etc but not from cold dark. It’s got to be an easy fix…

[NixonRedgrave]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

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This bug manifests itself when starting C&D rather than when spawning on a runway.

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[RookieOneqc]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes, on PC

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

Start the PC-6 Turbo Porter in a Cold and Dark situation

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[shyPunk2648]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes. On PC. Still a problem with v1.36.2.0

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The problem is associated with a “Cold and Dark” start of PC-6 Steam gauge. If the PC-6 is started at the end of the runway the transponder will be on.

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Cold and dark start:

Start at end of runway:

[shyPunk2648]

Added screenshots to my original post. sPK

[NixonRedgrave]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes/No

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This has been partially fixed. The PC-6 GNS wheels variant is fixed. However, the PC-6 GNS skis variant still has the issue.

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[NixonRedgrave]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

AAU3 did not address this and has regressed and broken the transponder in the wheels GNS version.

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[shyPunk2648]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes but the issue is intermittent.

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My first attempt to do a Cold and Dark Start since the AAU3 update showed the issue as noted by the OP. However subsequent to that it has worked over several game restarts. However I have just restarted the game and the issue is back.