PMDG 737 Discussion (PC Version) (Part 1)

Hi 737 pilots,

I fly this beatiful plane quite often and I have noticed something weird.
Does anyone of you experience sound and frame stutters during flights?
It happens randomly and it lasts roughly 15-20 seconds.
During my last flight EGAA BIRK, 785NM, it occurred like 4 times.
Very weird.

I’m on SU9

Cheers Mark

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If you are using FSUIPC turn off the auto save feature in FSUIPC. That was when I saw something similar on the CRJ and I have seen others mention it for the 737.

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Wow…
So if your Vapp is Vref+20, you go just 1 knot higher (which will definitely happen) you should do a go around?

Sorry I assumed you were wrong! But I’ve never seen or heard anything like that. You guys have a weird SOP…

Thanks for your reply, but I don’t use that add on.

Cheers Mark

Yourcontrols folder in community folder ?

You would never select Vref+20. The maximum wind additive is 15kts. When you fly Vref+15, that’s when Vref+20 (white bug) becomes the limit for the stabilized criteria. Check your manuals. I don’t think this is company SOPs and I’d be surprised if there was a difference there.

Even when you fly VREF ICE on one engine inoperative landings, your maximum wind additive is 5kts (so you’d be flying Vref15+10+5). I don’t think there’s a scenario where you would command an additive greater than 15kts for the current flap setting within the scopes of every checklist and Boeing manual. The only situation where a manual mentions a higher additive is for the speeds used in flap malfunction landings where speeds like VREF40+30 or VREF40+40 are mentioned. But in this case your flaps would not be F40 and the resulting airspeed becomes the effective VREF to which you should still add a 5 knot additive.

The only places where the manuals mention a higher additive is in flap malfunctions where speeds like VREF40+30 are mentioned but this is a different scenario, as you wouldn’t be using F40 (you have an assymetry) and the resulting airpseed becomes your Vref on which a minimum additive of 5kts is added.

Volanta has the same effect

I don’t use any add on that runs simultaneously.
Its just vanilla MSFS.

Don’t mix it with the non-normals, that’s a different story.

I did my research and we both are right. Max wind additive has always been 20 knots on Boeing aircraft since the 707. However Boeing apparently changed the recommended max additive to 15 knots in 2018 but it looks like it is for the 737NG only ?! I checked our FCOMs and it’s still 20 knots for the Classics. Also checked the old books of previous airlines and it was 20 knots on the NG (700/800) as well. :man_shrugging:t4:

For the stabilized app criteria:

Once again, never in 6 SOPs have I seen the stabilized app upper speed limit defined by Vref+value… But your company has the most weird sh.!t in their SOP out there so I’m not surprised … (No offense to fellow pilots though!). :grinning:

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Is this maybe to take into account the wind and keep a constant ground speed?

Anyone can inform me please?

Interesting. In the 757 we also had a maximum of 15 knot additive but honestly I don’t remember the stabilized criteria in that company/type (and the 757 has completely a completely different flap setup more in line with the modern boeings)
Could this have anything to do with the flap blowback in the 737?

Yes, in my company we do have SOPs very different from other airlines but after some time they all make a lot of sense. I see SOPs from other companies and in them I see threats all over the place. When a company does 2500+ flights per day I guess gather enough data to improve SOPs and confirm positive trends, even if it means doing things completely differently than other companies.
When I was flying for a different company I too thought my current company were freaks in terms of SOPs but really, now that I’m in I’d say they’re some of the best things about flying here (once you get used to them). We have people coming from every European airline and I fly with a couple ex-emirates captains. They all say my company compared to where they flew before is like day and night (positively). These hyper-defined SOPs have saved my ■■■ on many occasions where the stress was so high that I went monkey and reverted to pure SOP rather than reasoned actions… which is one of the main purposes of SOPs. Speed touches white bug after the gate? No need to think. Just go around.

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I hear you. And it’s not a question of who’s right or wrong I guess. I had the chance to train a lot of guys coming from that airline in the past and my impression always was that they were usually above average in theoretical knowledge but in general below average in flying skills and situational awareness… especially in other than normal situations. But I emphasize, this is my personal experience and opinion.

But the good news is you can fly whatever way you want on the PMDG 737s and still have a lot of fun! :metal:t2:

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Every time i Disarm Auto throttle before landing it will disarm my spoilers for some reason so i land with auto throttle on

Bindings. Check ALL your bindings, keyboard, mouse, throttle, joystick/yoke etc. I do not see this. It is a binding issue.

i think he was talking about being able to refuel each tank independently. The Fuel & Weights menu has this but i’m not putting a lot of money that it will work with PMDG since they have a custom everything

Is there a standard way to adjust the pilot seat so that the eye point is properly aligned? Airbus has the balls on the front strut but with the 737 I am not sure if I have the right eye height.
John.

For me, this is exactly the problem with SOPs like this though. What if going-around is completely inappropriate in a given situation? When airlines hardcode responses and leave no space for airmanship I feel it’s dangerous. It’s not for 85% of people 95% of the time, but on the day when two pilots at the lower end of the ability spectrum happen to be flying together and events conspire against them you’re leaving yourself horribly exposed in my opinion.

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Everything was working fine, exited sim normally. Next day when I entered the a/c, it wasn’t ‘seeing’ my flight controls (T-Master X) . No response to control inputs. Levers and controls respond in the cockpit but the a/c doesn’t. Example: landing gear, flaps, spoiler levers in cockpit move normally but nothing happens, and ailerons, rudder and elevators do not move when viewed externally. I’ve been all thru the a/c Setup and thru the sim Options and I cannot find a fix. No idea what could have happened overnight while it was off. ?? Sim gremlins? So before I do a delete and re-install, any ideas?
Thanks

Is it just me or the PMDG 737 displays are blurry with the DLSS option turned on and the FMC is kind of ghosting

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It’s in the FCOM. Unless you’re in VR or use TrackIR don’t stress too much about it. You’ll never get it right in the SIM without losing sight of important parts of the panel on a screen.

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