Since there hasn’t been a PMDG update in some time, your issue was undoubtedly something going on with SU11, and certainly many people (me included) have had increasing problems with stutters and pauses in the sim, especially at low level and during final approach.
Are you using FSLTL for traffic or model matching and if so, v1.1?
Yes running FSLTL version 1.1 currently. It does not seem to be an issue with FSLTL as I completed a flight earlier this week in the C310 with no FPS issues at all. Went back to the 737 and unfortunately the FPS issues returned.
Will await an update or some news from PMDG. Thanks for the feedback fellas, Glad it is not just me.
PMD$ always knew how to make money… ![]()
With the -900 released, they’ll hopefully concentrate on the EFB…
A humble suggestion - maybe PMDG should hold off on offering up new products for sale and spend some additional time bringing their existing products up to full spec (EFB)? Getting increasingly tired of “Capt Rob” making excuses. Every current NG flying (at least for US airlines) has an EFB installed. This isn’t a freeware product, in which case I’d be fine with the delays. It’s an expensive “study” sim. The EFB needs to be included and functional.
Since this isn’t a support forum and PMDG don’t monitor this thread, you should go make that suggestion on the PMDG forums or through their support portal.
Their support forum isn’t meant for criticism, or even suggestions of that kind. Just a bit of ranting from my side… Please disregard. I’m sure we’ll see the EFB during 2023.
I reverted back to my old FSLTL V1.0 and smooth again. I was flying in and out of KBOS on vatsim and it was busy, and the new FSLTL V1.1 models were causing the stutters. With V1.0 reinstalled, loaded up at KBOS and took off, same amount of traffic, very busy, and no stutters. And this was with the PMDG 737. I didn’t try a flight in a different aircraft with FSLTL V1.1 but once I went back to v1.0 problem solved.
Like the real thing, each model does handle a bit differently in certain flight phases.
It is quite noticeable to folks who use one model a lot, say the 700, and then switch to the 800.
To some folks, that isn’t a lot of money to spend to have the correct flight model for each variant.
I have the 700 and 800, and I can say the changes between them aren’t simply more inches or another door. Yes, as you say, physics change. It’s not the same landing the 700 than the 800. It’s not the same taking off the 700 than the 800. It’s not the same turning with the 700 than with the 800. But for some people, that doesn’t matter, and they just see another modelled door.
I agree, but it is also a fact, that the majority of the code is the same. So full price, if you own another variant is pretty steep. I stick with the 700. It’s the best anyway - also IRL.
So you don’t have to buy it if that price is too steep for you and you think it’s not worth it, do you? This will never end.
And remind me how exactly you know this? This issue has been beaten to death already. You don’t own it yet, but you seem to know a lot more about its nothingness than everyone. Maybe at least bother to read up on the differences IRL of the variants, then check when you get it, if it is accurately modeled or not, or don’t bother. NO one is forcing you to get it. Sick and tired of know-it-alls who immediately start complaining with zero information although the info is at their beck and call. SMH!
I didn’t, and this is what I wrote. This is a forum, where you can express your opinion - even if you don’t like it.
p.s. I have flown both variants (and the 400) for several thousand hours in real life.
So if you’re IRL 737 pilot then your opinion is better than mine. I get it. And you also know how much time and effort they put into the code and the flight model. BTW. I also expressed my opinion and mainly because this discussion is getting really tiring (I promise to myself that this was for the last time I even reacted on these PMDG pricing policy complaints). And still it’s a pretty simple decision buy/not buy. Noone is forced to buy anything. I’m probably also going to skip the -900 as I own all the other variants that keep me busy and there are also other planes to fly.
This is the first NG from them where I’m seriously thinking ‘nah’. I like the -8 as it stands. I do also have the other two, just for context.
Having said that, I’m not going to whinge about the price or anything. PMDG is a business, first and foremost. So I understand the rationale of their pricing, and think it’s a bit flippant/reductive to moan about it in this regard.
I’ll bet they charge $70+ for the -700 and -800 each because they knew they’d be the most popular ones, not everyone would buy them all, and if you’re going to pick, the -700 or -800 are most popular, and they’ll get $70+ out of you one way or another. Nothing wrong with knowing your market and pricing accordingly. For those that buy all 4 varients, well, I guess we’re willing to pay for it.
If you’re cheap, then go for the -600. They did everyone a favor there. I agree, quit complaining no one has to buy anything but the 737 is really the only plane worth the steep price right now.
Question on RL flight ops - I get that the lower display unit is only used to display engine info during the start-up process, however, how are the two engine display modes on the upper display unit used? One just shows N1, N2 and FF, the other an expanded range of parameters. Is the “simple” mode just used for take-off / landing to minimize distractions?
If something is wrong, it’s popping up automatically, so no need to have it open. At least that’s how I remember it. On the 320 we have 6 displays constantly showing parameters.
Was asking a 737 pilot the other day about it - once engine are running, they are switching to SYS, checking the aileron, elevator, rudder and press the ENG again to turn off the lower screen. It will be turned on automatically if anything is wrong with the engines.