This is what I get. The current cycle is accessible.
I can only select latest and 2203 on mine, if different cycles are clearly available, why canāt Navigraph unlock 2204 for everyone, which I believe is the one in the 737 on Xbox.
Hopefully they will as this seems an odd thing to lock away for some people but not all. We all have the same sub, very odd.
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Weird. This is on simbrief on mobile? I run my copy in a web browser on my laptop. Not sure that makes a difference though. I have simbrief opened up in a separate tab from navigraph charts. Again not sure that makes a difference.
I dont see the menu like you have it. That looks like how it used to before they upgraded the interface. Iām just thinking you are somehow stuck on the original simbrief somehow. It was all upgraded about 2 or 3 months ago. Maybe try logging into simbrief in a browser and you will see what I mean. It now looks similar to navigraph charts interface and works seamlessly with it.
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OKā¦I need to dig into this. Iāll get back to you
Everything checks out! Yes, those pics are off my phone with the new interface. Iām in Canadaā¦wondering if the databases are different?
Iāve sent a PM to NavData to see whatās going on here.
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Yes, it would be nice to have that cycle unlocked for the Xboxers.
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I ran out of fuel last night, shortly after take-off from CHC! Thatāll teach me for forgetting the very basics while concentrating on the more complex stuff!
By the way, the simās music in your video is running noticeably slower than mine - I wonder if itās your recording software or the fabled Xbox timeslipā¦
All available on mine,
Keep in mind, you can only activate from the time you acquired a subscription forward. So if you bought it after 2204, you wonāt have access.
I got mine in August of 2021, so I can go back that far.
I see older ones, I just canāt activate them.
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Yeah, Iām not sure what was up with that. Iāll record flights on my Twitch every now and again just to have them - just realized last night, I should probably look into how to export them to YouTube. While looking into how to do that, I realized Twitch only saves videos for a certain amount of time unless youāre a paid streamer or whatever, so a lot of my stuff is gone that I thought Iād saved. Easy come easy go I guess.
But the sound in the Twitch recording (and the YouTube export) keeps cutting out! Didnāt cut out at all while playing live, so thatās a bummer. As far as the ātime slipā - funny you mention, on this same flight, I kept looking at my planeās Zulu timer against the real-time clock and kept marveling at how framerate stutters and ātime slipā events that plagued other planes (A310 anyone??) just simply does NOT happen with this aircraft. Buttery smooth even in that regard.
I recorded this to show off how sweet this experience is on Xbox and itās a bummer that Twitch goofed up the sound.
Can someone just summarise please simply what the differences are in Simbrief/Navigraph and to what difference an updated and outdated AIRAC is making to the 737 PMDG?!?
Well in a worst case scenario of airac mismatches as I previously described using EIDW as an example. The 10L/28R opened late 2022, so that is reflected in the AIRACs since then. Last night when testing out access to older AIRAC cycle ā2203ā (that didnāt have the new EIDW runway, sid, stars etc) simbrief showed me all these errors with the missing sids & waypoints that relate to the new runway, and offered me the only solution available at the time and that was to depart runway 10R.
This is a worst case example of a mismatch, but changes do happen all over the world so if you use outdated airacs or have mismatches you will eventually run into the situation where at least a waypoint or two if not an entire runway are missing or have been changed.
In the CRJ for example which is the same as the 737 in the way it needs airac updates, it meant it would not load the FP in to the FMS when there was an airac mismatch, and just gave a load error instead.
So with the 737 having airac 2204 and no current method to update it on xbox, you would never be able to fly IFR in or out of EIDW new runway (assuming it gets included at some stage via default sim or 3rd party scenery like MKSTUDIOS).
In the end this isnāt about EIDW, itās just an major example of an airac change that accommodates updated nav data to reflect changes in the real world.
Example of EIDW R10L(new) with an older AIRAC (2203) mismatch in simbrief
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Nope, thatās not what the button does. Itās a consequence of you using it for the wrong purpose.
ALT INT(ervention) deletes the currently valid altitude restriction. That means that if you descend towards a restriction at for example 22000ft it will delete this restriction and descend right theough it. If it has already leveled out during a descent it will delete this restriction and continue further down.
If youāre at cruise level with VNAV active all you need to do is dial down the altitude on the MCP. Once you get to the T/D the airplane will start its descent automatically. If you press ALT INT you delete the current restriction (your cruise level) and since there is no vertical guidance yet the airplane will go into the default -1000fpm descent until it catches up with the vertical guidance and it will go into VNAV PTH (path). ALT INT works during VNAV climbs, too.
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I think itās definitely (as others have pointed out) only airacs from when your sub started. I started mine in March 2022 and I have airacs 2203 onwards available. Any older airacs than 2203 are greyed out for me.
Whatās stopping Navigraph unlocking just 2203 for everyone, isnāt that in their best interests, as people will continue to sub be it on and off when they fly the 737.
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Hello, does anyone know when they will add the 737-900 PMDG for Xbox in the game store ?? so even xbox users can use it ā¦
I just wait to buy the 737-800 PMDG because Iāll wait the 737-900 to be released too because I prefere to fly and have it, but will they really add the 737-900 in the game store soon ? Or Iām waiting years and years and never add ??
Thanks for answer ā¦
The 900 (and 600) are not as yet availble in the marketplace for PC yet despite them having been released for quite some time outside of marketplace. They will come, but I suspect it could be a while yet. The EFB/UFT release will likely happen first I suspect. Who knows for sure though.
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Iād like to know if anyone has found ANY native Controls Settings mapping that works with the 737-800? Using the Alpha/Bravo on Xbox myself, but if anyoneās found a way to manipulate any of the more common aircraft config settings with ANY hardware at all, Iām curious what youāve found.
Things that work:
rotor dials for AP (HDG, VS, IAS, CRS, ALT)
COM/NAV radio tuning and swaps (using Axair MIAP)
parking brake
Things that donāt work (that Iāve tried):
Pitot/probe heat
Engine Anti Ice
Windshield Anti Ice
All lights, external and internal
Weird stuff that Iād love to have but havenāt tested:
Open cockpit doors
Autobrake settings (maybe mapped to magnetos on the Alpha, since itās a dial?)
Anything related to engine start so I can flip a real switch to introduce fuel, etc
None of this is a dealbreaker, as Iām happy to be reliant on a keyboard/mouse for this planeās array of three-position switches and dials, which would never work with a two position hardware switch like whatās on the Bravo, but I always like to break out as many things as possible into hardware events when I can. No LVARS or Spad or Axes and Ohs options on Xbox, of course.
Any discussion on what youāve found would be great 
This is the only reason I will not purchase the PMDG 737. Iām not paying nearly Ā£60 to have an aircraft that has out of date navdata. Itās a massive oversight by the developer. Once again I feel Xbox simmers are being taken for a ride. But in this case not by the developer but Microsoft and their Marketplace rules 
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