RELEASED! Just Flight Bae146 "the Little Jumbojet" April 29th

Finally got into this problem. I flew from England to Australia and didnt have the LNAV issue until I was flying from Sydney to Golden Coast. It keeps overshooting and then over correcting on the LNAV track.

BTW I fixed my CTDs by clearing temporary files including prerenders as somebody else had suggested

I am so tempted to get this bird… but the lack of automation scares me… maybe I would get the hang of it.

They were quite common over here, back in those days in the eighties and nineties when ā€œregional jetā€ could only mean either a BAe 146/Avro RJ or a Fokker F-28/F-100. Obviously not as common as the B737, almost 11,000 produced versus less than 400…

Agree on the older 737, I flew the CaptainSim 737-200 an awful lot in Prepar3D and it did not even have an FMC, just flying the airways on VORs. The BAe 146 really reminds me of that type of flying and it is awesome.

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I think I’ve found the issue, I still had a axis bound to mixture 1 and 2. If it is on 0 (down), the engine does not spool up. I don’t see what mixture does in a jet airliner…..

the lack of automation is what makes it fun to fly , more immersive

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It has enough automation, just no autothrottle.
Other than that you still have many other auto pilot features and a FMC if needed. The big difference is (like say the CRJ) the manual throttle control. It also has really accessible dials and instruments for VOR navigation, you don’t have to use them, but it can be rewarding if you do. It’s a fantastic aircraft and a completely different experience.

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Yes I remember them well back in the 80’s, nowadays it’s mainly Ryan air in UK using the more modern versions. It’s certainly been around a very long time in various iterations.

First airliner for me only GA previously, I’m loving it, I can’t get over how they translate the mass into MSFS, it feels great to fly (I’m in VR), some very special about the call outs when coming into land.

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Obviously I’m biased but really can’t agree on that point, and fortunately lots of the community agree. I doubt we’d have had got away with releasing an aircraft with poor visuals. I’d consider that to be down to personal taste in texturing/visual style rather than good versus bad. They’ve opted to go down the tiling/detail map route which provides greater resolution and uniformity across the entire aircraft but at the expense of character, especially when it comes to wear and tear, and gradations in surface colour and detail etc. That explains the difference in appearance versus their P3D version, with advantages (resolution, which is very important to some users) and disadvantages (some users consider the uniformity to make cockpits a tad bland).

Their approach works well for a modern aircraft, hence it’s use on the default aircraft, as such clean and uniform exteriors and cockpits don’t really require those gradations, but it absolutely wouldn’t work well for something as worn and non-uniform as the 146 (or most of our other aircraft). There’s a good chance that we will use that same approach on some of our future aircraft but not the 146, F28, Vulcan, Tornado etc.

It’s a difficult thing to explain without examples but I just thought it was worth pointing out the difference between ā€˜good versus bad’, instead this is all about artistic choice and what’s most suitable for the aircraft in question. The 146 has all the same 8K and 4K textures with decals, and we have very closely simulated the visuals of the real-world example on which ours is based (G-JEAO) and I’m happy to supply reference photos to prove it. I think the attached in-sim screenshots demonstrate the high visual fidelity we’ve been able to achieve in MSFS.

That said, we’re always happy to respond to feedback if you have specific examples?

Martyn - Just Flight





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I appreciate your response! I will try to get some nice examples for you of what I see as less than PMDG.

However, what you say about modelling a used airplane instead of a completely new one could be very true, I am not an expert at all in these things, so it is ā€˜just’ my impression of things.

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No worries, all of this stuff is naturally subjective and everyone has different tastes. There are lots of technical and artistic reasons for developers choosing approach A versus B, and those aren’t always very clear to the community. In the end, I think both aircraft do a very good job of visually representing their real-world equivalents, which are both airliners but quite different in terms of appearance and materials.

If you can send any examples to our support team then we can get those properly logged and investigated for a future update: https://support.justflight.com/support/tickets/new

Thanks again for the feedback,

Martyn - Just Flight

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Love the 146. I used to deadhead around in them during my days as a Dash-8 captain with Air Nova/Air Canada JAZZ. Did a lot of flights in the jumpseat. They retired them in favour of the CRJ200 before I could get a chance to fly it.

I eventually ended up at Westjet on the 737NG flew the 700 and 800.

I’m in the corporate world now, close to retirement, but for my flightsim experience I prefer the 146 to the 737. Maybe it’s nostalgia and missing the opportunity in real life. JustFlight has done a great job bringing the Whisper Jet to MSFS.

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Hello Martyn, your clearly monitoring the forums for comments, firstly loving the 146, I fly VR and it very immersive. I have a few minor niggles regarding zoom/ click points especially around the FMS and find I have to zoom on the glare shield to get in close (there have been a number of comments above, none a deal breaker), question is are you capturing these comments or do they require a ticket submission for future finessing? Many thanks

ā€œour future aircraft …. Tornadoā€

Hang on! You guys are bringing over your Tornado too? The GR.1?

I see IndiaFoxtEcho are also. Are they going to be based on different models?

I’m going to have to wait for yours now if that’s the case!! :slight_smile:

Not to derail this topic, for what it’s worth I think the BAe146 looks STUNNING! :wink:

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Those are already logged and will be addressed ASAP.

Martyn - Just Flight

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Yes, our Tornado GR1 will be coming to MSFS. I’m not sure what variants IFE is working on but ours is based 100% on the RAF GR1, with our RAF F3 variant to possibly follow, developed to our usual ā€˜study level’.

Martyn - Just Flight

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I always love to see real pilots giving some of their Bio here :slight_smile: Maybe you were one of the captain that flew me Cuba or Mexico for my winter getaways !! I was already in the sim world at the time and was always dreaming that I could go in the cockpit to help the captain because the co-pilot wasn’t feeling well lol… I was starting some flight lessons on a 172 and 182 and my dream was to eventually get my commercial license but money wasn’t there to support my dream.

Ok I’m off topic but I too love the 146. I’m about to jump in the 737 right now, let see if I like it better or not. Cheers!

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Click bait. I’m sure.

I love you, and want to have your babies.

The Tonka was an absolute favourite in P3d. Can’t wait to get low level in MSFS.

The 146 is the perfect airliner for me, just the right balance between automation and old school flying.

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Had to be done.



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