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Checking EGUL again this morning, as I did yesterday morning at about the same time. Today it’s almost perfect again. Visibility to the horizon in all directions, and a solid blanket of cloud cover.
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Yes, overcast is depicted incorrectly and inaccurately. Should be 8/8ths coverage, no blue sky.
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EGBB, metar shows “overcast at 1700” which should look like the pic from EGUL in the post above as that is what it looks like in reality. Sim depicts far too much blue sky as usual. Definitely not overcast at 1700ft.
3 years nearly to the day and this issue still has not been resolved. Here is Cardiff right now - should be overcast at 1000ft. Clearly it is nothing like overcast.
I hope it is, but I don’t see why it would be, other than adding cirrus clouds no other indications have been given as to any improvements to live weather depiction.
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I just don’t understand this. Today 08/11/24, just one day later than my previous bug report that there was no overcast, the sim is doing a pretty good and accurate job of the murky overcast we have had in the UK for many days running now. There is clearly a problem with live weather injection.
And just to be very clear - I am reporting the INCONSISTENCY of the depiction of overcast. Yes I have included some words, but this is a report of the bug not a discussion. Please do not delete this post.
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Bumping this, as it’s still an issue in 2024. If you go to any airport that is reporting high level overcast (into the flight levels), it won’t be injected into the sim.
unfortunately, this issue has not been fixed in MSFS 2024. The weather and clouds quality, and also the depiction is as worse as in MSFS 2020. It’s sad, i was really hoping they will be massive improvements on weather in MSFS2024.
I’ve checked multiple airports reporting OVC above 20000 feet, and there’s never an overcast layer rendered. It’s really too bad, because it would add so much to the immersion. I remember in 2020, before they implemented METAR weather during that descent, breaking through a high overcast layer and getting below it, and the whole mood changing. Sadly, that’s never been a thing, and still not a thing in 2024.
I’ve had overcast layers above FL200 plenty of times, including just two days ago. They reduced the effect of METAR on cloud cover quite some time ago to reduce “METAR circles” and other bad effects.
Clouds come primarily from the MeteoBlue forecast model, not from METAR observations - certainly at altitudes well above the surface. If the model predicts that there will be an overcast layer at FL200 then there will be. If not, then there won’t. If the predictive model gets the temperature or humidity wrong at high altitude by a few degrees or percent, then there may not be clouds, even if real time observations show they are present.
Also have to keep in mind that most fully-automated weather stations like AWOS and ASOS don’t report clouds above 12,600’ AGL. The overwhelming ratio of those stations to METAR that are augmented by human observers in the US is overwhelming. Further, the incidence of observations with layers that high from human observers/augmentation is relatively low in the overall scheme of things. So going by METAR wouldn’t be a great indicator to start with.
Thus what @HalberQuacky posited, which is a better solution that IIRC was mentioned by devs a while back. To be honest, I haven’t tested any of that recently, though. Offhand, it feels like the clouds are a lot better than before, especially with the lighting. And I’ve seen plenty of layers including high clouds. Not so much the wispy cirrus fibratus textures we might expect, but overall, they’re there.
Can’t agree that the bad effects are reduced. Just look at the METAR bubble here. All they have to do is, inject the haze elsewhere from METEOBLUE. The data is there.
This was not fixed in MSFS2020. Sadly, it’s the same in MSF2024
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ISSUE DESCRIPTION
Description of the issue: The Sim is still incapable of rendering full overcast conditions almost as if the Metar data is interfering with cloud depiction. Even though we have been told cloud injection is not from metar, I believe it is still coming from metar reports and disrupting the meteoblue forecast model. Particularly cirrus clouds and mid level clouds are a great example, I have not seen the sim render cirrus overcast since Pre SU7. All we get is the popcorn looking low density cirrus clouds which is really immersion breaking. Also Metar bubbles are still present which further proves that clouds are being injected by metar when they shouldn’t be.
Provide specific location or coordinates: YMML Melbourne, Dunedin, New Zealand.
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Everytime
REPRODUCTION STEPS
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Loaded into the location with live weather selected
Restarted the flight
Restarted the Sim
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What peripherals are you using, if relevant: Honeycomb Bravo Yoke and Throttle Quadrant.
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX 4080 Super
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? Ryzen 9 7900X3D, 64GB RAM
When i check the ymml metars for the last 12 hours or current … i see no overcast reported … just few / scattered or broken at worst ?
If the metar does not show high level clouds … it will not show jn sim also since Asobo does not have a person looking outside for a perfect reflection of weather at every airport
People should report metars also in the posts … from the time they take screenshots or pictures of weather
Just because it’s not reported in a METAR doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. METAR’s ceilometers for detection are limited, which is exactly the reason why it’s a bad idea injecting based solely on METAR.
Here’s an example right now at KLAR airport, which is reporting CLR. You can see from satellite and webcams in the area, there’s widespread overcast cloud. This is where meteoblue should be using forecast and GRIB data to inject the layers not captured by METAR.