Sim now seems incapable of rendering overcast consistently or accurately using live weather

[wolfenwingman]

yes thats what we had before su7 - the metar integration is new

Live Weather - Toggle options (enable/disable) for METAR based weather injections

response from meteoblue: We know the METAR data integration, which we did based on Microsoft’s specifications, which is derived from user feedback. Therefore, we can not really help because Microsoft needs to decide how they display our weather data. We discussed the different options with them, and they decided to go for the implementation you currently have in the FS. If you want to have the old visuals again or a selection option, you must ask Microsoft directly because they decide what th…

[CoastalGamer]

@wolfenwingman

yes thats what we had before su7 - the metar integration is new

So the source is a quote from you claiming that Meteoblue said something without proof? How can METAR data be blended by Meteoblue for every hour if Asobo receives the data every 6 hours? It’s Asobo’s word with lots of evidence in their favor vs a few people repeating things on this forum using quotes from each other as proof. If the clouds came from METAR, the clouds would more consistently match the METAR data, like we see with the variables that we know for a fact come from METAR and Asobo openly states comes from METAR. Just scroll up a bit… Most of the posts in threads like these are people complaining that the clouds don’t match METAR. The fact that the clouds are plausible yet don’t always match METAR or Meteoblue’s nowcast data confirms what Asobo says in their Q&As. You guys keep going in circles about METAR, when the problems with the clouds may not be a data issue at all. Is it really so hard to believe that there could potentially be bugs in the transition code and problems\room for improvement with how the cloud voxels are generated from the data? The clouds look great in certain situations and not in others, and we know that the clouds are capable of looking great in most situations based on what’s possible with manual presets.

[Perrry]

Here they describe the METAR is injected into the Meteoblue weather model in su7

Developer Q&A Twitch Series: September 29th, 2021

[Hester40MT]

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[DementedCorn327]

As Hester40MT mentioned, we need to report the bug we are experiencing in that forum using exclusively the form and we can use that existing thread in the Community Support forum to keep discussing there about the overcast issue: No clouds in overcast conditions

[hobanagerik]

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Checking EGUL again this morning, as I did yesterday morning at about the same time. Today it’s almost perfect again. Visibility to the horizon in all directions, and a solid blanket of cloud cover.

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EGUL

[AndyXPO]

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Yes, overcast is depicted incorrectly and inaccurately. Should be 8/8ths coverage, no blue sky.

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EGBB, metar shows “overcast at 1700” which should look like the pic from EGUL in the post above as that is what it looks like in reality. Sim depicts far too much blue sky as usual. Definitely not overcast at 1700ft.

[AndyXPO]

3 years nearly to the day and this issue still has not been resolved. Here is Cardiff right now - should be overcast at 1000ft. Clearly it is nothing like overcast.

[Foxhound6050]

let’s see if MSFS 2024 resolve this issue

[AndyXPO]

I hope it is, but I don’t see why it would be, other than adding cirrus clouds no other indications have been given as to any improvements to live weather depiction.

[AndyXPO]

A few minutes later, the Metar has changed and it should now be overcast at 900, and there are even LESS clouds!!

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[AndyXPO]

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I just don’t understand this. Today 08/11/24, just one day later than my previous bug report that there was no overcast, the sim is doing a pretty good and accurate job of the murky overcast we have had in the UK for many days running now. There is clearly a problem with live weather injection.

And just to be very clear - I am reporting the INCONSISTENCY of the depiction of overcast. Yes I have included some words, but this is a report of the bug not a discussion. Please do not delete this post.

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[PunchDkns99]

Bumping this, as it’s still an issue in 2024. If you go to any airport that is reporting high level overcast (into the flight levels), it won’t be injected into the sim.

[Foxhound6050]

unfortunately, this issue has not been fixed in MSFS 2024. The weather and clouds quality, and also the depiction is as worse as in MSFS 2020. It’s sad, i was really hoping they will be massive improvements on weather in MSFS2024.