same problem here! Cessna Longitude
Same problem for me, Beechcraft Bonanza G36.
So disappointing, since today even worse: immediately get a CTD when loading a saved flight!!
Never ever seen a software with so many programming flaws and bugs. 2y and still simplest things don´t work. Maybe the demands on the programming teams are far too high. Looking pretty might be enough for a xbox game, but for a software, claiming to be a âSimulatorâ, you need real software engineers, not only graphic designers.
Hello, First of all. sorry for my english.
I found something that works for me.
Try to not save your flight in the cloud. Save it in the PC, then reload the flight.
For me that works fine.
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Iâm hoping the upcoming Bush Trip fixes for SU10 may address this, since I feel like those âMissionâ concepts are mixed with loading saved flights. But it may be false hope.
Anyway, in lieu of a fix or acknowledgement, I did some more experiments. I think I again found a possible work-around on PC. No clue about xbox.
If someone could also try that out, I am curious.
Possible Work-around for Toolbar
- Start a new flight, parked cold and dark, without a flight plan (we are not doing a single flight anyway)
- Click âReady to Flyâ
- Immediatly save the flight
- Proceed with your wacky adventures and then park your aircraft somewhere else
- When parked, save the flight and overwrite the previous saved game
- In the FLT file, change FirstFlightState to âPREFLIGHT_PUSHBACKâ
- Load the flight
- Observe your aircraft where you left it AND a Toolbar
- It looks like you can repeat this multiple times, so as long as you save from a new flight before doing anything, it may just keep working âŚ
Caveat: this still has the Weather icon missing. If you want that back look at the next work-around
Work-around for Weather icon in Toolbar
[Weather]
UseLiveWeather=True
WeatherCanBeLive=True
Notes on my investigation
Scenario 01 âNOKâ:
- Start a new flight, cold and dark from a parking spot
- Fly to some other location
- Save the flight, then load it again
Expected result: Toolbar is present
Observed result: Toolbar is missing
Scenario 02 âOKâ:
- Start a new flight, cold and dark from a parking spot
- Save the flight, then load it again
Expected result: Toolbar is present
Observed result: Toolbar is present (yes, it is there)
I then proceeded comparing the two saved games. And can make some observations:
- Both consist of a .FLT file (ini format) and an SPB file (binary).
- For NOK, this file is 1 KB
- For OK, this file is 61 KB (!)
- Removing the SPB file for OK and then loading flight also results in a missing toolbar
- The SPB seems to contain information important enough for Flight Simulator to show or not show the toolbar
I then proceeded with several experiments comparing the two FLT files and trying to align them. There were some differences, but nothing of interest it seemed.
Then, I tried the following:
- Replace the small 1KB SPB with the big SPB from the saved game that was working
The result was that the toolbar was missing ⌠HOWEVER.
I then also changed FirstFlightState from âWAITINGâ to âPREFLIGHT_PUSHBACKâ. Now the saved file loaded WITH the Toolbar.
However, the cloud icon for the Weather was still missing (live weather was active). This, however, can be restored by replacing the [Weather] section with this:
[Weather]
UseLiveWeather=True
WeatherCanBeLive=True
This text will be hidden
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Yep, at last the answer, save it to the PC hard drive. âBig AL 00000â
But after youâve loaded your saved game from the PC, press Escape, and go into Assistant, turn off Ai ATC Assistant or youâll be pushed back.
I cannot bring up ATC or the toolbar after loading a flight. Tried rebinding keys, nothing works to bring up the toolbar. Hotkeys for the ATC window or VFR map also have no effect.
Xbox series x here - cannot continue a saved flight as all toolbar assigned functions do not work, even via hotkeys. Toolbar cannot be brought up either, even when assigning a new keybind to âtoggle toolbarâ.
No ATC window, no map, no fuel window, no weather window, etc. Kills any IFR flight you were in the middle of.
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I gave up on waiting for saved flights to be fixed in 2020.
Since then I select a row in the flight log and click Fly Again. Fly Again does not remember the waypoints I added, but at least I get the departure and arrival airports and any parking or any departure and approach selected.
It does not have everything saved flights are supposed to have, but at least I always get the toolbar including the ability to change the weather and I usually use the Garmin 1000 NXI to select the approach based on current live weather conditions anyway.
Got this issue on xboxSX also, is this actually on the bug listâs? I carnt find it if it is
same here on XboxSX have this issue as Cavalera 999
On loading saved flight either in the air, or of ground ( cold and dark) no top menu appears with Left stick click, or setting up keyboard keyâs.
Do you also lose all features attached to the toolbar like the nav map, ATC window, etc? I canât bring these up even using hotkeys.
Yes I do, have tried with mouse attached (much better for Garminâs), and keyboard ( can do without. But wanted to test).
I have not seen it âofficiallyâ acknowledged as a bug.
Itâs unbelievable this is still going guys. thanks for keeping reporting in the hope someone from the dev team eventually sees this! Iâm still not playing the game until itâs fixed, breaks the immersion completely if I canât do long flights or park somewhere and carry on another day
Assuming Bug Report forms have been submitted for this ?
Donât relay on just posting up in a forum bug section if there submitting forms. Devâs might never see. Even in here.
hi, yeah, used the official ones. Once you submit, they are immediately set to status âresolvedâ by a system bot. no humans appear to get involved so no idea who monitors or even if they do/care
They should still pickup the details
Personally, I have submitted it multiple times with Zendesk. Providing reproducible cases for both the positive and negative scenario. Itâs been a while though.
I guess everyone should at least submit it once, maybe that makes it more visible?