Yes, it will. Working on a it support desk my self, one or two reports every now an then, don’t mean anything. There needs to be a large number over a short window for people to take notice. Especially if they think what your reporting was already fixed.
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I have written up two 100% reproducible cases for Zendesk: one for the missing Weather icon and one for the missing Toolbar. In the first case, the Toolbar works after loading but the Weather icon is missing. In the second case, the complete Toolbar is missing.
I can only actually reproduce it on my PC, but I think xbox has the same issue so hopefully some of you can also report it to Zendesk on other systems.
Steps to Reproduce (SU9): Weather settings disabled after loading Saved Game
Microsoft Flight Simulator Build version: 1.25.7.0
Categorize the bug: UI, Weather
Is dev mode activated: No, dev mode wasn’t activated
Peripherals & Controllers: Laptop + Mouse
Aircraft model: Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan EX
Have you installed files in the “Community” folder: No
Subject: Weather settings disabled after loading a Saved Game
Description:
When loading a saved game, if the Toolbar is visible, it is always missing the Weather (cloud) icon. This means it’s not possible to change the weather or time of day after loading a saved flight. Even though it was possible in the flight that was saved.
Repro Rate: Every time (100%)
Steps to Reproduce:
- Start Microsoft Flight Simulator
- Go to the World Map
- Select a Departure Airport
- Select a Parking to ensure cold and dark start
- Select an Aircraft
- For Weather and Time, select “Live”
- Click “Fly” and wait for the flight to load
- Click “Ready to Fly”
- Open the Toolbar (hover over it)
- Note that the Weather settings (cloud icon) are available
- Press “Esc”
- Press “Load/Save”
- Choose “Save to this PC”
- Save the flight to a location on the PC
- Press “Resume”
- Press “Esc”
- Press “Load/Save”
- Choose “Load from this PC”
- Choose the previously saved flight
- Wait for the flight to load
- Open the Toolbar (hover over it)
Expected result:
- The Weather settings (cloud icon) are available
Observed result:
- The Weather settings (cloud icon) is not available
Attachments:
- Issue 01 - SU9.FLT
- Issue 01 - SU9.SPB
Steps to Reproduce (SU9): Toolbar missing after loading Saved Game
Microsoft Flight Simulator Build version: 1.25.7.0
Categorize the bug: UI
Is dev mode activated: No, dev mode wasn’t activated
Peripherals & Controllers: Laptop + Mouse
Aircraft model: Cessna 208 B Grand Caravan EX
Have you installed files in the “Community” folder: No
Subject: 02.Toolbar missing after loading Saved Game
Repro Rate: Every time (100%)
Description:
When loading a saved game, the Toolbar is missing and does not appear when the mouse hovers over the top. The white triangle on top of the screen is also not visible.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Start Microsoft Flight Simulator
- Go to the World Map
- Select a Departure Airport
- Select a Runway as starting point (to ensure a “hot” start)
- Select an Aircraft
- For Weather and Time, select “Live”
- Click “Fly” and wait for the flight to load
- Click “Ready to Fly”
- Open the Toolbar (hover over it)
- Note that the Toolbar is available at this point.
- Press “Resume”
- Press “Esc”
- Press “Load/Save”
- Choose “Save to this PC”
- Save the flight to a location on the PC
- Press “Esc”
- Press “Load/Save”
- Choose “Load from this PC”
- Choose the previously saved flight
- Wait for the flight to load
- Open the Toolbar (hover over it)
Expected result:
- The Toolbar appears
Observed result:
- The Toolbar is unavailable: no white triangle and it does not appear when hovering over it
Attachments:
- Issue 02 - SU9.FLT
- Issue 02 - SU9.SPB
Edit 2022-04-26: confirmed all issues are still reproducable after Sim Update 9
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I too have long since given up on saved flights. Perhaps the reason Zendesk isn’t doing anything about this issue is that only 64 pilots have vote for this topic. That makes them think that this is not really very important.
I think it is more a problem of (or the lack of) having all the defects systematically sorted in a tracking database and (important) being able to check the status on each. Right now it is more of a fire and forget and a “me too” which causes frustration while spending much effort into reporting something and never hearing back from dev.
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My toolbar is gone after save a flight and tried continue later. Is it possible to solve? I am on Xbox series x
Same error here, same test, but on Xbox Series x version.
Just confirmed this is not solved Sim Update 9, the cases still reproduce.
I was hoping maybe by accident, but no 
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Lastest patch/toolbar missing after loading a flight. Game is unplayable.
Version: 1.25.7.0
Xbxo Series X
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I just discovered this now. PMDG 737 saves the panel state “fantastic” but useless because when I load the saved flight, the toolbar is missing. Even the functions (ATC) which are mapped to a keystroke, don’t work.
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When reloading any flight with any plane, the toolbar is missing so i can’t open an atc window or any of the toolbar functions. This bug is mentioned in the bugs area and has been around since 2020 !! The new PMDG 737 saves your panel state when you save a flight, buts it’s useless if the sim can’t give you the toolbar to interact with the loaded flight.
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The missing toolbar is just one weak point of the weared “load a saved flight” function! So its not a tool bar problem, its a “load a saved flight problem”. Better to move it there. And yes, we are waiting since launch of MSFS that they pick up this defective function. I do not know why they just do ignore it in their improvement list. May be it is spread into many different posted flags so it never got enough voices.
- ATC not working (sometimes later during the flight suddenly)
- Weather unable to change - and so time unable to change
- Toolbar sometimes missing, sometimes not. If missing it pops in after take off
- All systems on and engines running despite the saved conditions where all systems off
There is an assumption that the function “save a flight” and “load a saved flight” are somehow connected to the bush flying trips which have more or less and sometimes similar problems (no correct saving possible, missing end of trip although correct landing…)
Could we/somehow bring all these over 2 years already posted issues into one major post/headline and sum up all the many different votes? That should bring it then on their improvement list …
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I hope a forum mod could merge this topic with its votes with this “bug-logged” topic:
But I don’t know how / who to ask …
After reloading a saved flight …
- ATC not working (sometimes later during the flight suddenly)
- Weather unable to change - and so time unable to change
- Toolbar mostly missing, sometimes not. If missing it sometimes pops in after take off
- All systems on and engines running despite the saved conditions where all systems off
PMDG 737 have found a way to integrate Panel State with a save. This highlights the issues with the Sim’s flight reload function.
Toolbar still not appearing after loading flight. Game broken and unplayable.
Xbox Series X
Version: 1.25.12.0
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I am on SU9, and this problem is STILL happening!
No toolbar after loading a saved flight ie after doing a LOAD of a .FLT file.
Has Microsoft or Asobo acknowledged they are aware of this debilitating bug, and are they working on finally fixing it?
I don’t think it has been acknowledged.
The other post I linked to in my previous post has the “bug-logged” label to it. But I don’t know what that actually means. I think that means the “community manager” has passed it on to the product team.
It’s unfortunate because it’s not exactly a subtle bug.
Thank you, @Monkfishman3086
I have submitted a Bug Report and received the standard “[Microsoft Flight Simulator - Bug report received]” email message from MSFS support@flightsimulator.zendesk.com Fri, May 27, 2022 at 3:18 PM. They said “Thank you for submitting a bug report. Our team will review the information and try to reproduce the issue thanks to the information you provided.”
Let’s hope they receive enough similar bug reports about this same problem, that will stimulate them to realize that NO, it’s NOT OK that resuming a saved flight will not allow you access to the in-game white Toolbar.
For example, by not having that toolbar:
- You can’t set the simulated time-of-day or change the weather, etc.
- You can’t simply pull down the Flight Assistance to turn on the taxi ribbon to verify the taxi path, and/or to turn it off to increase the immersive experience.
- You can’t use the Travel To functionality to jump to a particular waypoint or phase along the flight path.
- etc.
So in its present state of preventing access to the in-game Toolbar, saving and resuming from a saved flight (.FLT file) is pretty much like a three-legged horse: perhaps it can hobble along and do something, but it’s nowhere near as useful as it could be if that important part were not missing!
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I have this issue on Series X, but I also notice that recently, no matter what .flt save file I load, the plane is back at the beginning of the flight with no toolbar. I saved the flights under separate names at different stages of the flight, but regardless of which save I load, the flight is at the beginning!
Bizarre…
I can’t believe this is still an issue, we’ve had major updates since this was first reported
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Yes, I can’t believe more users don’t complain about this. Do saved flt files restore the Toolbar on PC? Is this just an Xbox thing?