WU17 River Thames worse than before, now looks like tide is out

[ALANajH]

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Brief description of the issue:

the River Thames water level is incorrect since the WU17, now the boats are mostly all on dry land, the areas near the bridges are dry with no water.

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plenty available in the feedback poll of the WU17 thread

ICAO or coordinates (DevMode > Debug > Display position)

River Thames, can’t miss it!

Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Fly near the river in London with WU17 installed

PC specs and/or peripheral set up if relevant:

Ryzen 7800x3d, Radeon 7900XTX,32GB DDR5 6000 cl30, NVME 2TB

Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue:

Latest public build

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[RagingWombat839]

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The WU 17 trailer shows the Thames in Central London and in the trailer it looks normal with plenty of water, not dried up like it looks in the sim. There’s clearly something wrong and unintended with the WU17 update on the live build.

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Here is an image showing Westminster in the sim:

and here is what it’s supposed to look like according to the trailer:

credit to @hobanagerik and @Marklar666 for the images I reused there

[Fearney69]

Add these issues to the new WU17 for the Thames.
With zero addons installed, vanilla sim.

[hobanagerik]

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Pretty much every bridge now has dry land underneath it, markedly different from the WU17 trailer. You can also see many places where there are cracks in the water, and this gets worse as you travel West out of the city, where very large water cliffs can be seen where the levels are really far apart.

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[GOTAWAKEMAN]

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same situation

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[Easyraider7884]

same here,to bad that always is something wrong.
also after the update i lost all settings again
i think i stay away from 2024,because i get tired to betatest untested stuff,i hope they fix 2020 and stop updates then.
since su15 the sim only make trouble for me,never since release it was as bad to get it work as it is now…nearly every second start something happen,insert disc,reset settings,gpu error and so on,i need more time to fix then to fly.
and this is not my pc,it is the bugy game and the servers wat can not handle the traffic and the check for authorize wat mess up all this…

thank you

[DensestSnail693]

I’m going to speculate 2024 is going to have much better water masking which could explain why low tide scenery is preferred beforehand. I imagine 2020 will also benefit

[ExtraPilot6480]

@DensestSnail693

low tide scenery

I’ve never seen the Thames looking like this, even at low tide.

[DensestSnail693]

Maybe at some time in the future they plan on real tides in which case they’ll want land levels closer to the riverbed so that they don’t interfere … I can’t think of any other reason for what we have been given now

[RagingWombat839]

This is a bug thread folks, there’s plenty of non-bug threads for random speculation. Just not here.

[DensestSnail693]

That’s true of course … if it’s a bug

[RagingWombat839]

At low tides some mud can be exposed at the edges on the Thames in certain locations. It never dries up under the bridges!

[DensestSnail693]

That’s for sure, many moons ago I lived there myself. Hence my speculation that it will make things easier for a future fix

[hobanagerik]

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I just wanted to add this, as I think it bolsters the more general argument that what we see in the trailer is not representative of what we got delivered.

The first image shows Cork from the trailer, which red lines pointing to some non-PG trees, and the third bridge from the front, and its water level determined by how much of the bridges supports can be seen.

The second image shows hardly any of the trees as shown in the trailer, and if you look at the bridge you can see more of the bridge supports shown as well as as a white line, which is some of the ground exposed beneath it. It is not anywhere near as bad as the Thames, but I think its clear now that there are significant differences between the trailer imagery, and what we have, and it is not restricted to London.

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[sloppysmusic]

From the screenshots it doesn’t even look like a river, the Thames appears to be a series of artificial lakes instead. There should always be an actual river flowing or the boats /river shuttles would be stranded!
Talking about boats there should be at least a couple of Uber boats on there, even if static and docked. Are there? Been too busy with the airshow this week to sim

[PHSepp796]

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i have the same problem with the river thames
What i tried is turn Photogrammetry off and bing maps off in the first set of pictures

Than delete wu3 Photogrammetry part and run again
See 2nd set of pictures

Than reinstalled wu3 Photogrammetry and deleted wu17 Photogrammetry
To if there was conflict with these 2 Photogrammetry see 3th set of pictures

Now i find they all look similair exept for the first set with deeper holes next to the ship
and basically i suspect that dev need to make solid ground of bottom if you wish, to place objects like bridges or boats (as static objects) on them. And maybe these contactpoints are placed to high and may have changed through new Dem data.

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1th set

2nd set

3th set

[CommonBloom31]

A few pictures from me

[RagingWombat839]

We have the bug-logged tag now which means Asobo have reproduced the problem (can’t imagine that was very hard ) and plan to fix it. Now we just have to wait and see how long it takes.

[Armytoy254]

I believe A.I. is doing all the work. It’s learning as it goes, however would be nice for a real person to check before it goes out.

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