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Several 2020 SU betas ago we faced a significant load time issue that was exacerbated by certain models of NVMe.
I wonder…
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Startup time 2:25 for me. Standard Deluxe content, empty Community. Has stayed about the same since day 1. FYI.
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Well that’s interesting…
I started the thread that you’ve posted in, detailing my experience with long load times since the patch that did not exist before:
My sim is installed on a dedicated NVMe M.2 drive, my C drive with Windows is also on an NVMe M.2 drive as well.
It’s quite frustrating. I just spent a fair amount of time scouring the Beta archives looking for the thread where we had this excessive load time issue.
I realize why I can’t find it – the bug reports are not accessible, only the general conversation threads.
Anyhow, the deal was the excessive loading times were attributed to a couple of issues, but one was related to certain brand/models of NVMe (I don’t think it was affecting SSDs) that were seeing even longer loading times than those who didn’t have those specifc brand/models.
My laptop – the PC out of my two that is seeing the excessive load times with 1.2.7.0 – has one of the offending NVMe – a Samsung 970 EVO Plus. Asobo had to do some sort of fix on their end to solve that part of the excessive load time issue.
One of the other issues revolved around which aircraft you had as your currently selected aircraft when you quit the sim. There were a select few that were causing really, really long load times. Quit the sim with the Caravan selected, for example, and the load time was dramatically reduced.
Other load time issues were related to certain Marketplace content.
The whole thing was a perfect storm.
Anyhow, it’s food for thought. When I see/experience an issue only affecting a group of people, it gets me considering all the avenues. Is it possible that something like this has reared its head again?
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Are you running on an administrator account? Dunno why that’d matter, but…
Has anyone tried to see if longer load times can be attruted to AMD perhaps? I’m Intel, and I’m fast. On a clean system, there’s only so many differences…
Edit: I see you later said there was an issue with some NVMe SSD’s.
Already posted in another topic !
Just for info - installed the latest graphics card drivers AGAIN (nvidia), activated GSYNC, removed FPS limitation, or try to set the monitor refresh rate in the nvidia graphics settings (nvidia control panel) - if locked - to ‘off’ or load for test purposes “default” setting and “bam” → loading language 10 sec. - total loading time 1:55 max !
so it is fixed that limiting the FPS probably changes the loading time - even possibly one of the settings in the game itself - VSYNC etc. - you would have to try it out!
BR !
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I was reading that. Those are some whacky findings!
I will have to mess about with settings and see if I see similar results.
Unfortunately I did everything at once - so I can’t say exactly what it was - in any case it has to do with the FPS limiter (wasn’t that already with MSFS2020?) ! Just didn’t want to give up - I thought it must be some stupid setting - although that shouldn’t be the case in general ! Now all my Nvidia filters are also working - very strange - I tried everything before - well, the ways of MSFS or a PC are often mysterious ! 
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Indeed they are. Two people can have the exact same PC, but two different experiences.
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Even in controlled environments you can get this.
I build 5 PC’s at the same time. Identical hardware, identical image being deployed. One of them does something weird, like fails to join the domain, or some other bit of software fails to install correctly. I blame those Trisolaran Sophons, personally.
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I didn’t have any custom settings within the Nvidia CP, but I restored them to default anyway.
I turned off Vsync in MSFS 2024 and tried loading the sim with my display set at both 60Hz and again at 144Hz.
For me, I see no change in load time. Where my load gets stuck is on Activating Packages at 14% for quite a while and then, when it proceeds, it is quite slow as that percentage increases.
What is very odd, is that it was saying “Activating Packages”, but on the next try it said “VFS Activating Packages”. How can that step’s label even change?
Load time still ~8:30.
I can confirm that disabling max framerate in nvidia driver settings reduces loading times significantly. Language loading will be much quicker…
So weird… and sad, because i normally use an fps limiter on driver level for MSFS2024.
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Ha, I was already thinking I was imagining things. I think on the first start after a reboot it said “activating packages” and on a subsequent start it suddenly said “VFS activating packages” and one of the starts the music was playing and on the other it was not playing. MSFS 2024 is haunted 
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How can we be scientists if the variables change from test to test without our knowledge?
This is so bizarre.
Is this part of my issue: 1268 items in My library? Does activating packages occur for all packages regardless of their being enabled/disabled?
Is this possibly why my load times are atrocious and many other people’s are not – I’ve made all my MSFS add-on purchases via the Marketplace? Someone who hasn’t done this can remove any/all items from the Community folder and the sim doesn’t even know they exist. I don’t have that option. The sim knows my content exists no matter what I do.
Does this also explain why disabling everything I possibly can doesn’t have any significant impact on the load hanging at 14%? Content enabled or disabled it sits there just as long.
Did the 1.2.7.0 enabling of the disable/enable functionality within My library have a knock-on effect here that I am experiencing?
I can confirm that bizarrely for me removing my locked Frame Rate in Nvidia Control Panel fixed my long loading. Went straight through loading language in a few seconds to activating packages and had a normal pre-patch loading time.
I can’t figure out for the life of me why that would be the case.
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I’ve never had the locked frame rates activated in the app. Perhaps that’s why I haven’t been experiencing these phantom slowdowns.
I’ve only noticed the VFS Activating Packages after I get the choice of Continue or Safe Mode after a CTD. No way to choose though so I just hit Space to continue. I don’t get the choice after every CTD.
Did a reinstall yesterday for other reasons but it’s made no change to load times. Still about 2 ½ minutes at 14% and just over 5 minutes total.
On Xbox X by the way.
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