A2A Aerostar 600

I don’t think it’s the price but the developer. The funny thing is, I honestly can’t remember the last time I flew the Comanche. It’s just not something I ever really yearn to fly. And yet I bought this within seconds of it being launched.

It is early days so I’m really keen to see how this develops and I’ll be very happy if what we have seen is just a small taste of what is to come.

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Fo me it has the wow factor. Some of it comes with the Airframe itself. Having a complex twin with such good visibility is amazing. Flying in VR at night and looking out of the top window into the stars is a wonderfull thing.

I also like the quirks of the centurion AP. Having to keep an eye on my course needle to get it right is a lot of fun in longer flights. Managing the engine parameters is also better than in any other piston twin.

And there is the walkaround. A2a is the first to implement their own walkaround features in the MSFS 2024 native way. There are some things that need some polish in that feature, but it works as expected and gives me a lot of immersion and sense of ownership.

The engine failure simulation is the best for piston aircraft. In no other piston addon other than the comanche, I have to do real maintenance. Made a walkaround, saw that engine 2 had significantly lost oil over the last trip and knew something was wrong. So I checked, and the oil lines were damaged. It is this persistency between flights, that makes both the comanche and the aerostar so interesting for me.

With all that in mind, the resolution of the interior texturing is sub par. The waethering is very good and believable, but the instruments lack clarity and refinement in high resolution VR Headsets. It’s still a nice cockpit, but there are some developers doing a better Job at that. But the moment you jump in the otherwise excelent JF Arrow, you see that the Aerostar is still among the better ones. :smiley:

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Sure it needs work (it’s early aceass after all) but as someone who uses addons from really good developers such as A2A, Black Square, Airfoillabs, Thranda, FSReborn, CAS, TorqueSim, Hot Start, SimCoders, Aerobask, VSKYLABS, LES, CIS, Just Flight, COWS, ect I’ve been really enjoying the Aerostar and have been pretty much flying it non-stop since it’s release.

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This struck a chord with me - yet everytime I get back in the Comanche I quickly let out a “Oh yeah..” and remember why I like it so much still.

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That’s my experience as well. I bought the Comanche right way, flew it for a bit, marvelled at the systems depth, and haven’t touched it in a while.

Bought the Aerostar immediately. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I agree, and I’m hopeful that’s due to it being an ‘Early Access’ model.

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Can you try with MSFS “loudness limiter” disabled in MSFS settings? In some configurations it clamps the aircraft and engines volume a bit too much.

Oh. Thanks. Any idea where to find that?

Edit: Got it. On a2a forum.

Hmmm, wow factor? I’ll take 190kts IAS in a light twin with excellent hand flying modeled over systems bells and whistles any day. And for this pilot the Aerostar delivers solid performance: System simplicity in a high performance light twin is a boon for single-pilot flying in my books.
And since flight sim is a hobby or pastime, playing light aircraft owner is just not my idea of fun; I would rather do the flying and let the fantasy maintenance crews do their thing for me behind the scenes, LOL.

Seriously folks, a light twin almost as simple to start and manage as a complex single that goes 190kts; one that rewards piloting skills with greaser landings when the numbers are respected? My kind of airplane. I’d rather spend time navigating VORs and sight seeing out the windows than tracking virtual oil changes and what not. 190kts in a normally aspirated piston twin folks!

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Huh, but this IS a plane where oil changes and maintenance are one of the selling points :smiley:

Either way, as written in my first post, I have high hopes for it being improved/expanded further, because I really want to replace my Cessna 310 for my next VOR world tour and this is the perfect candidate:

  • Gradual, believable wear and maintenance
  • Two engines if one fails
  • Acceptable radio navigation suite without any GPS visible
  • Full state saving
  • Low and slow-ish and not too overpowered (no turbo/turboprop) so mountains and hot weather will still be a challenge.

It checks almost all of the marks. I will just continue bothering A2A on their forums to make sure it will end up how I envision it :smiley:

Will also check out the loudness limiter option, other planes sound fine, but maybe it’s different with this one.

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When will be available on xbox?

It took four months for A2A to release a Comanche update that made it Xbox compatible.
The Aerostar is in Early Access right now, and I’m guessing that it will be at least a few weeks after the first Release Version before it will be on the Marketplace, and qualified for Xbox.

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Nothing to add from what @BegottenPoet228 has said. I asked on their Discord and A2A did say that it will definitely come out for Xbox at least, so thats a good sign that they are thinking about it.

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Very Good tks

Wish they would ditch the Comanche sounds and give the Aerostar its own sound set. Feels a little low rent/underhand with the recycled sounds.

I’ll have another go at the weekend but I’m not really feeling it with this A2A plane. Shame because it’s genuinely the one I’ve been most looking forward to for over a year now.

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So it’s early release and therefore unfinished. Thought I read somewhere above or elsewhere that the sounds are not final yet.

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I also read that but first impressions count. I really hope I’m wrong about this and a full sound set is on the cards to make this yet another stand out addition to the sim world from a top tier developer.

Yes you did read that.
Which is why I’m ignoring the deficiencies I might find in this Early Access product.

[EDIT] “Ignoring” was the wrong word. I’m going to make note of them and report them to A2A. That what an ‘Early Access’ release is for.

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My initial impressions on this one:

The engines simulation is great as in the previous A2A product, this might seem obvious but so many add-ons get the engines wrong that is something to highlight.

Flightmodel is really great and as with the Comanche it feels a lot different than most of the other planes, hand-flying the Aerostar is a really nice experience and it really transmits a feeling of flying during all phases of flight.

I have no particular issues with sounds, I’m not an expert in this area and from other Aerostar videos it really sounds like the real thing, they have said this is going to improve so even better.

Model and textures are my main low point in this product, for the price I would have expected a better, more detailed model both internal and external and also better textures. Make no mistake, it is really good but like it or not the most recent Carenado planes look better so there is some room for improvement. If this is something that is going to improve with updates then fine but why release the product when its visuals are not finished? Those are the things that most people notice first.

Systems are all simulated, compared to other “early releases” this is a finished product, granted the plane is not very complex as it has no pressurization but things work, the AP works nicely and you have a choice of different avionics.

On small rant: The Aerostar is the perfect add-on to release not one plane but a series: the 600, the 601P, the 700, even the jet prototype -how awesome that would be-. And I’m 99% sure A2A has no plans to do those versions and of course with this in the market I don’t think other devs will even think about doing an Aerostar so it seems we have lost the pressurized version, the 700 and the jet for ever. Using accusim this is not a moddable aircraft either so the community is not going to rescue us here.

Final words: The plane is a joy to fly and fidelity is extremely high, flies as the real thing and engines are perfectly simulated, it will give us a lot of hours of fun in a fast Piston twin with a lot of character but very nice to hand-fly. Textures and model just slightly under the expected quality for the price but that is probably going to change. Same for sounds. Probably.

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100% on board with you on this. I don’t even see an Accu-Sim A2A 601P in our future, much less a 602P, or 700 (which could be amazing.) I said it earlier: “Why oh why didn’t they release the 601P?”

I know the answer (Scott didn’t own one,) but I’m still lamenting that decision.

Not looking for the jet prototype, personally. But I certainly see why you’d like it to come to fruition.

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