Echo 19 was not used by AH in the past for those bad sound sets… Echo 19 has been around for a while selling sound sets for various airplanes independent of AH. So, as I understand it, it’s a good thing they’re using Echo 19 compared to their previous efforts at sound sets in the interim before they’re able to create their own version of a sound set.
Be that as it may, there’s nothing wrong with waiting.
I didn’t intend my posts to be a criticism of Echo 19, I own and enjoy their Mustang package and several other warbirds they’ve done sound for. My point was I think Aeroplane Heaven would be better served to release the plane with the best possible sound package even if it means a delay given Aeroplane Heaven have had some planes with lackluster sounds in the past. I’m assuming Echo 19 will still be involved in the better soundset. End of story.
To get back on topic I was fortunate enough to take a ride in a B-25 this summer. Really looking forward to the add-on
I’d agree with that but for the one caveat. It just isn’t a perfect world, especially where newly released flight sim aircraft are concerned.
I like AH putting their B-25 out prior to finalizing the sound suite because then we’ll be able to
1)use it right away - knowing the sounds will be upgraded
Just an idea
Business wise, probably getting it out before xmas maybe a good idea, assuming the flight model is ok.
…. then they can get on with the Mosquito in January!
Plus, anything that gets us closer to a B-17F is a good thing. 
This was my thinking as well. I’d rather they get in on the Christmas rush, hopefully giving them more incentive to finish it later, as @FusionHorse151 said. Obviously, the reverse can also happen, they can say “eh, we made our money, on to the next!”, but, hopefully they follow through with their promises.
Some observations (just scratching the surface):
Note differences: in design/shape/proportions of cowlings, placements of exhaust stacks, design/proportions of oil cooler intakes (left and right), wrong vs. correct top turret, size of prop diameter/arc, proportions of nose/fuselage.
The answer is pretty simple really…if you feel that way then dont buy it. Plenty of people will, myself included. Oh and by the way… the computer chair you sit in and the controls you use are not authentic to a B25 either so you may need to lift your game in that department if you are so worried about authenticity.
If it’s as good as the Lancaster, it will suit me. I’ll buy it.
I will watch the reviews first though.
We do not answer forums or social media concerns. Should you have an issue with a plane contact us through the official channels. The interesting thing here is that our B-25J is still in development. We are always happy to hear from critics/contributors if they contact us. Just publishing complex annotated pre–release pics of a product yet to be in the market? Seriously?
Hello to AH (just in case)…
Any chance of learning where your B-25J project is sitting at the moment?
It being near to the end of January I figured I’d knock on the door and see if anyone’s home atm
Johnny T5000 is obviously one who is a stickler for accuracy. It must be remembered that not everyone is like minded.
Looking forward to the release with enthusiasm.
He just wants accuracy. I feel that AH probably didn’t have an “accurately” refurbed B-25 to model and look at IRL. That’s the way of things with these birds. I don’t particularly fault them on that, but they’ve messed up so many aircraft I love already - I will likely skip this as well. They have a deplorable track record - but hopefully this will be a great improvement! I’m watching it with some interest.
They did a very good job with the Lancaster. Going to the depth on things that most people would not pickup on shows a level of nit picking bordering on obcession
Not to mention the method. Direct contact to the developers with suggestions would have been the way to go, instead of posting teaser pictures littered with red ink and redundant annotations onto a public forum before the product is even released…yikes.
Yea, I don’t have that one, but I’ve heard it’s better. I don’t want to turn this into an AH bashing thread, but of all the aircraft I DO have, I think every last one has significant issues.
I’m hoping the B-25 is really good.
it was more than just a little offside - agree.
I think a lot of us want these products to be as close to the mark as possible, the variable is what each of us is willing to accept as a fair attempt from the developer.
But when they offer progress reports and images ‘in progress’ and get blasted on these boards rather than informed via the direct email access point it absolutely sours the milk.
For my part, I want to see their WIP images ( that would be to my mind the very purpose of these boards) - be able to provide feedback to them directly (that would be the very purpose of their ‘official channels’) - then see what gets released before passing judgement on their effort, with such judgement being included with another polite email to them or in worst case scenario, a decision not to purchase the product.
I dunno why we need so much ■■■■■ drama all the time - but then again - Public Forum…
Hopefully the devs. will take it as a sign of passion amongst the community. Ignore the haters.
I always love seeing in progress material. It gives you a sense of anticipation.
This does help facilitate the discussion about realism, authenticity, fun and expectation. I have seen this come up a lot recently and I just posted similar sentiments in the Microprose B-17 thread. The product hasn’t even been released yet. Let’s wait and see what is delivered.
Another point of topic is what is the goal. A historical representation of specific aircraft? A current airshow capable machine with modern avionics solutions, upgrades and STCs? They are very different directions. Some people see the sim as a digital museum, others see it as a game for simply passing time.
What is the price point? Do you want to charge enough money to support the research involved with accurate historic aircraft or keep the price point low aimed at more casual users?
Are you modeling a specific example, or using multiple reference aircraft and photo records? In my experience with aviation, aircraft may come off of the same assembly line, but no two aircraft are exactly the same. As soon as they go through the first inspection and any parts get replaced, they start to be unique. For example, pointing out a specific antenna on the nose that may not be in any wartime photos. Its probably from a more modern piece of equipment that replaces a system that wouldn’t work in a modern ATC environment anyway…
The product page is up (not released yet, but the manual should be there), and she is looking good!
It looks like there is no Doolittle Raiders livery, which I was hoping for even while realizing they were actually the earlier “B” variant. This goes with what @belatu42 mentioned above. I would prefer to have the exact variant, of course, but I am willing to think of it as a modern day tribute livery. And actually, AH is doing just that with one of their paints, “Hot Gen” S/N 45-8883. They even posted on their FB to ask if everyone was cool with it as a mismatched variant tribute.
I imagine one of our fine community painters will make one, and then I will just have to buy this, as I don’t expect any other B-25’s to come to market. I admit, what excites me the most is the prospect of their B-17F which I am hoping will come after the Mosquito. 
