I really don’t know what the purpose of this post is but I think I need to just air my thoughts at this point. Since the sim released I’ve said several times I regret buying the sim and that I’d I could go back in time and prevent myself from buying it I would. I say this as someone who LOVES flight simming (at least on the handful of times it’s actually worked). I’m fairly new to the hobby: I played 2020 on game pass with an Xbox controller and really enjoyed it but held off on in eating in peripherals because 2024 had been announced. I waited 18 months for 2024 to be released. I bought an new Xbox and a complete set of peripherals to play the sim (I looked into buying a PC but the cost was just too high and I was told that the Xbox version would be more stable than the PC version 
). The initial release was chaos. SU1 broke the Sim’s ability to handle a mouse (at the same time as a gamepad not being able to action some basic menu functions, e.g. the start button on the opening screen of the sim). So, I sat SU1 out until a few weeks ago. I had a few days of SU2 running relatively ok and now I’m entirely locked out of the sim. Apparently there’s s solution out there but the BEST CASE SCENARIO is that it completely resets key bindings…and probably much more. Of course the info on exactly what taking these steps do are vague Asobo seems to have little to no interest in even acknowledging the issue nevermind addressing it. Whilst this may not be too much of a deal for some, it is a big deal to me…a dealbreaker in fact. You see, I was in the middle of redoing my mappings when this happened…and I’d basically spent a who week (yes, a whole week whilst off work sick) redoing my mappings to make sure I have everything set up exactly as I’d want it. Why a week? Why would it take this long? Well, on my xbox X which was bought new specifically for msfs 2024 and had nothing else installed on it can’t seem to handle the controls settings menu (nevermind flying an airliner). It crashes ALL THE TIME! And when it doesn’t crash it’s painfully slow. Why didn’t I do this soon? I tried but it took so long and the 9-10 times the sim totally forgot all my mappings settings in the past made me wary of doing it before the sim got more stable. So I came back to the some to sort my bindings out. I can’t count the hours I’ve spent staring at a screen praying for msfs to work…and the number of enjoyable flying hours I’ve had during this time has been maybe 3-4 hours in total. I’m locked out of the sim so I can’t see how many hours of gameplay have on it but I’d wager it’s 250+ hours…of doing nothing. The only real time I’ve managed to get in is cargo missions in career mode and this was all for the purpose of progressing with career to the point of flying airliners. I still can’t do this because every airliner mission crashes. I recently came to the conclusion that I needed to invest in a PC because all the aircraft I want to fly aren’t available on Xbox and the Xbox can’t even run the thing anyway. After being left in limbo with the current situation, though, I’m left asking myself ‘is there really any point?’ I have significant sunk cost invested into the hobby now and I really do love simming in the brief windows where I have been able to sim. The overwhelming feelings this sim has brought me, though, have been stress, frustration and disappointment. So, my question to all y’all is this: can you give me any reason why I shouldn’t just drop this hobby? Can anyone give me any reason why in eating in a high-end PC is really worth it? And if you can think of any such reasons, can you think of any reason why is shouldn’t just drop this sim and head straight over to X-Plane/DCS? And I’m serious guys: this sim has had a significant adverse impact on my mental health and I’m not sure I can understand how those of you whom are running on PC haven’t jumped ship already…because things are regressing, not getting better…and 6 months after launch that is just not acceptable. If I saw any positive signs I might be able to live with it, but after watching the dev’s Q&A from the other day I’m left with the impression that they simply don’t understand/believe how bad the sim is AND that whenever any information is presented to them that indicates how bad the sim is they glibly brush it aside (if they’re even paying attention to the questions in the first place). So, yeah, I need to hear some reasons why there’s any point me sticking with this hobby…because it’s been 99.9% pain and disappointment so far.
I’m in no position of saying anything about your frustration, since I completely share it. Today I replied to a bug report I did in december. Six months later, apparently the team “isn’t able to reproduce”. Took me five minutes to reproduce, and four of them were firing up the sim. So, what can I say.
I decided to spare some time from MSFS and wait at least for SU3, but most probably I won’t be touching MSFS until SU4. 2020 gives me an unpleasant feeling of “I shouldn’t be on this one, and I paid 200 bucks to have a better sim”. And 2024 simply doesn’t make the cut yet. The sim is way behind what was expected, the airplanes don’t work (Saab 340 was the reason why I paid for a more expensive version and there you have it, it’s a virtual paperweight), bugs are here and there, etc. Actually, while I was writing the bug report the sim completely froze and had to close it from the task manager.
What I did was switch to X-Plane 12, following the recommendations of other simmers. Of course, it doesn’t have either the variety of airplanes nor the terrain quality that MSFS has. Nevertheless, with some free addons, the experience is quite pleasant. If you’re a bush trip lover, probably XP12 isn’ the right tool. Close up terrain doesn’t look nice unless you’re willing to spend some time downloading several gigabytes of ortho imaging (which I’m doing right now, after all, it will be less than the hours I lost managing to get a flight without bugs in 2024). On the other hand, night lighting is miles ahead of 2020 or 2024 (since 2020 is a black hole and 2024 is a christmas tree basically). The ATC works, it actually does real things like giving you a direct to a waypoint in your plan, and you can ask things like for example, a direct. The default airports are awesome. Roads and cities are quite good (my city, Buenos Aires, looks better in XPlane than in MSFS). And if you’re spending most of your time some thousands feet above ground, it even looks better than 2024.
So, am I leaving the hobby in the end? Thought about, but I won’t let this MSFS 2024 awful experience drag me down, and I propose you do the same. After all, we are all simmers. We all do this in our spare time, for the sake and happines of doing it. No one forces us, and we do spend a huge amount of money in this. So, an awful experience shouldn’t drag us down. Lesson learned: I’m never, ever buying again an MSFS pre release. I’m very glad for all the people that don’t have this issues, either because they use other tools to fly (3rd party aircraft, 3rd party ATC, etc.) or simply because they didn’t face them. However there are a lot of other users who face these issues, who feel disappointed, and the last thing to do is let a bad piece of software force you to quit the hobby. There’s much more.
Take a cup of tea, coffee, beer, wine, whatever is your preference, and just try to do your best to enjoy. In the meantime let’s just wait for SU3 or SU4 or the next release to see what happens. Just like MSFS 2024 opening animation said “the sky is the limit”, well… MSFS 2024 isn’t the limit of simming. And probably it will get better, just needs time. And if it doesn’t get better… let’s wait for the next release, or let’s check other simming tools (well for that… you’ll need a PC 
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Have a good one!
Seb
So you’re telling me there is 0.1% goodness there. Go with that. 
3 Reasons -
1 you know you are hooked and despite it all you don’t want to not use this sim - otherwise why would you be asking us - deep down you love it?
2. you can’t fly X-Plane on x-box
3. when you can save some money for a good rig you will enjoy the fruits of your hard earned labour and you will get to fly the 737
So you can vent on this forum…
You mean, you haven’t already?
I strongly suspect that Asobo is the best thing to ever happen to X-Plane… So many new players every day, brought into the hobby on someone else’s marketing budget, sent their way from perfectly justified frustration.
I’ve made that switch some time ago, for a lot of the same reasons too… There are very few downsides, and fewer still that can’t be turned around into an upside with clever addons
As a user of both and as someone who has been in the hobby for 28 years I personally can’t. All of these sims are a lot of fun. I have a plethora of addons in XP 12 and over 20 modules in DCS and still really enjoy MSFS 2024. I’m currently flying the A2A Piper Comanche in MSFS 2024. After that I plan to hop in DCS with a friend and fly the Heatblur F-4E in a multiplayer server with them and after that we’re going to hop in XP 12 and fly the Hot Start Challenger 650 across the pond together. Depending on what time it is after all of that I might hop back in MSFS 2024 and fly the Black Square Piston Duke.
It’s surprising to hear a console would be so unreliable. I imagine that at least would be the benefit there. This type of game is really better on a PC. There are better controller options and things like head-tracking (TrackIR). Plus a PC is better able to handle the graphics it seems.
To save money, I almost bought an Xbox for FS2024. But I knew it would be too restrictive and a bad decision. I have been siming on a PC for decades..lol.
I would have really missed the community folder as well as a bunch of other things. So I spent over 2K on a new desktop PC…and I have zero regrets.
I’m on Xbox series X and I’m feeling pretty bummed out about flying as a result of the constant hope that the next beta update will bring the fixes we need only to have the hopes trampled on by the next update only making it worse. And there are a great many of us feeling this way
I have abandoned 2024 and enjoying being back on 2020. There is a feeling that there’s a new sim and I shouldn’t be on the old one but it’s between that and not flying at all so I’ll take what I can get
I understand being bummed out and I do feel for all of you.
Now even fs2020 is broken, ctds… Run. Don’t look back… 
I moved from Xbox Series X to PC in December 2023 and everything that has happened since on 2020 and 2024 has supported my decision to do so.
Don’t know how unusual I am, but I do well with MSFS 2024 on my 4 1/2 year old I79700k RTX 2070 Super 4K display 2TB NVMe 64GB 2133 MHz DLDSR mild OCing frame-gen on high-ultra settings (I was hoping in Nov 2024 that I would not have to do a complete system upgrade) … 
note, this PC cost with add-on’s cost over $2000 but equivalent PC now can be bought for $5-800 …
Yes! So you can go nutz
Some of my greatest joy in the last few years has come from MSFS.
Many years ago I worked in flight simulator development. My life went other directions and I’d forgotten about my connections to it.
I’d heard about MSFS 2020 and kept an eye on it. Ultimately, when it came out for Xbox, I tracked down a rare Series S during the pandemic, since an X was simply impossible to find.
I was immediately smitten by the sim. I dug out my old flight instruction manuals and began re-reading them. I’d get up at 05:00 and start flying. I struggled with the Xbox controller, but did my best. I bought a Hotas One and TFRP pedals, which greatly improved flight control.
A few months later, I found an X and upgraded. I bought the Boeing yoke and two Boeing throttle quadrants. I upgrade to TPR pedals. I got a dedicated 4K display and set the whole thing up at a corner desk as a sim station.
It all worked so well for me, and for so long that I never considered a PC.
I’d spend hours of my down time on this forum meeting some really interesting people living all over the globe. I got to waking up in the middle of the night, just so I could communicate with those located in Europe. I have enjoyed helping so many other sim pilots solve problems and have appreciated their helping me solve mine.
I’d spend hours and hours and hours searching for PDFs of every pilot’s operating handbook I could find. I’d be up to the wee hours in bed reading my glowing iPad, absorbing every last bit of information about all these aircraft I was hooked on flying in the sim.
I have done so much flying in my home state of California, that I know my state from the air like the back of my hand. Thanks to the incredible scenery of this simulator, I can drop down out of the clouds in an analog aircraft with no GPS and just look out the window and know where in California I am by a reservoir or a mountain range or a highway or a patch of wind turbines. This has been one of the absolutely greatest parts of my flight simming experience. It is that real.
I ended up building a dedicated PC — something I never done before — for a sim-rig. I got a Tobii eye tracker, a Next Level Racing cockpit, a Honeycomb Bravo, and a Buttkicker haptic device for my seat.
I bought the Stratoliner the instant it released and was so irritated by MS for not fixing it that I taught myself how to use the SDK and to make a mod to make it into the really awesome airplane it deserves to be. I went up to my local airfield and took photographs of the place and did my best to make a bespoke custom version of it for the sim.
MSFS has changed my life. It has given me so much. It has pushed me to learn so many new things. It has completely rekindled my love of flight and aviation. It has expanded my mind, introduced me to incredible people. It has even taught me to be a better human online, because this forum demanded that of me.
So there’s your more than single reason to not give up on this. There is an entire life-changing hobby awaiting you that may just lead you down paths you never saw yourself going down.
There’s your answer! Stop now and try something else. Nothing is worth making you sick.
Boy do I feel your pain. I thought it was slowly getting better, then that last update broke almost everything.
I keep flying, hoping that 1 of these days, it’ll all work again, but flight after failed flight, I just get more disappointed.
Today, I was trying another career flight, and the flight plan, that I can’t review, because EFB is broken had my king air landing on a water airstrip.
Your post resonated deeply with me. Ive felt the same feelings since November. But I wouldn’t let it ruin the hobby for me either, I refuse! I took a break, and then I started a world tour to find joy in the hobby again.
See, flight simulation has always been a make-your-own-fun sort of hobby. Sure a working career mode would be great, but the one we have in FS24 is absolute trash. I think at this point, it’s better for everyone to forget that it exists.
Make your own fun, like we have for the past 40 years. If fun means a structured career, get NeoFly. Just find the fun again. Whether that means X-Plane or FS20, or combat sims, find that fun again. I hope you do, buddy.