Extreme flickering and stuttering with Frame Generation

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Yes

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This issue is not exclusive to MSFS2024. I am able to reproduce it with MSFS2020.

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I have added a question about this for the upcoming developer stream. You can do the same if you want.

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  • Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024:

2024

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  • Game Platform (Exampe: Steam, Xbox, MS Store):

ms store (xbox app)

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  1. Description of the issue:

I am having major issues when the FG is on. Actually, I had this issue in MSFS 2020 as well, but I could get rid of it by switching it off and then back on.

I found another solution for this issue in 2024: switching to windowed mode and then back to fullscreen mode. However, it only works until the game momentarily freezes or the FPS drops due to a lack of optimization, which triggers stuttering again.

On the other hand, I experience huge FPS drops when I start at an airport or land. I get 50-60 FPS (sometimes even more) when I start in the air, even on ultra settings at 1080p and in the most detailed cities like New York. However, I only get “1-5 FPS” when I start at an airport, even at the least busy ones.

I also experience huge FPS drops after playing for a while. For example, I start with 60 FPS in the air, but it drops to 20-30 FPS after playing for 10-20 minutes.

I didn’t have such performance issues with MSFS 2020. The lowest FPS I experienced in 2020 was 30-35 FPS, even with every setting on ultra (average 60 FPS).

  1. Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?

I don’t have any mods or addons

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How often does this occur for you? (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)

stuttering starts when I have fps drops or after the game freezes for a sec

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  1. What peripherals are you using, if relevant:

xbox one controller on my laptop

  1. [PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

no

  1. [PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

  2. [PC Only] Many issues may be due to an outdated graphics card. Please state your Graphics Card Driver Manufacturer (NVIDIA, Intel, AMD) and Version (Learn how to find your current graphics card driver version):

nvidia 566.14

  1. [PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

amd ryzen 7940hs, rtx 4070 laptop 8 gb, 16 gb of ram

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

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• same issue reported here. Issue has existed since MSFS 2020, I had it first in December 2023. Seems like a DX12 issue where Frame Generation is badly implemented and gets out of sync when the GPU reaches a certain load.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Yes

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• When going in extremely low FPS (below 10 FPS), mostly at landing and takeoff the Frame Gen gets bugged and jitters like in the Video of @chatnyurur
What resolves it is going in settings and turn it off and on again.

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• Exactly like @chatnyurur’s Video. I’ll spare myself the video.

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• exactly the same problem and it always happens when landing when the FPS tends to drop

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• this issue also happened in MSFS 2020 and is not related to the Nvidia driver

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Can you all do me a favor and also vote in my thread that I linked above?
We already have more votes there so it increases the chance of being recognized by Asobo…

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I have lately been experiencing consistent stutter (usually around 1 second freezes) flying around the Dallas Ft Worth area. It started on descent into a nearby airport, started again when I loaded in cold and dark, and only got slightly better when up at cruise flying away from the city. I’m not sure if it’s some particularly heavy scenery being loaded or what, but I’ve had this happen at a few other airports in the past and it usually kicks in during deacnt. Makes landings very, eh, exciting I guess.

Edit: I have frame gen enabled, since msfs 2024 is too CPU heavy for me to run without it. I can’t imagine it’s a VRAM issue, as I have a 4090 for work.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/audio-stutters-in-menu-globe-and-on-ground-during-flight/678476

Disable Max Frame Rate in the Flight Simulator 2020 profile in NVCP. Use another method to limit frames. This is the setting that nukes mainthread with FG on using 4 series nvidia cards.

You’re welcome.

Hi @sudonymn
Thanks for your suggestion, but in my case I have no frame limit set anywhere.

I can absolutely reproduce this with that setting alone. This is on a fresh install of win11 with base FS2020 and NVCP, no other 3rd party software. Max Frames inits the frame gen bug 10 out of 10 times.

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Hope this helps them to track down that issue :slight_smile:

same issue here.
Hope Asobo team find a solution. Very annoying graphical bug

warkaround i found if it can help the dev: deactivate antialiasing and FG. Then reactivate it

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I tried rolling back previous versions of the nvidia game ready driver to see if it can be isolated to a specific change, but it persists as far back as 552.54 so far. Regardless nvidia needs to be made aware. @Jummivana can you pass this along on your side?

win11 home
Asus TUF RTX 4090

Only change to defaults in NVCP is Vysnc ON in the FS2020 profile. Using RTSS as the frame cap with reflex as the limiter tech is working perfectly for me. Confirmed also working fine with the DLSS 4 dlls.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes
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• This issue occurs mainly at big airports such as Heathrow. I can be fine for a few mins on the ground but as soon as I change to the external camera it happens.

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I am also experiencing this issue and nothing except a PC reboot resolves the issue. I would recommend people to use Loss Scaling as an alternative while this issue gets resolved.

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i love that we’re in february and no solution has been offered.

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I experience this too. Good to find the source in the forum! Its such a turn off.. i even did the turbo prop certification with this lol

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Remember to vote for this topic @All
We have already made it to the list of top bugs in the last development update. Status is still „under investigation“ though…

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