The fact is that now msfs has done it globally , every part of the world will be done properly and not just a few places
So flying jet airliners at high altitudes the deterioration in TLOD isn’t as dramatic and SU 15 is very stable.
I would argue differently. While it’s true that flying jet airliners at high altitudes may mitigate the dramatic deterioration in TLOD to some extent, it doesn’t change the fact that the overall visual quality of the scenery is compromised a lot. As could be seen on the screenshots I posted earlier today. Additionally, stability issues persists, sadly; but hopefully it’s better for most users in general: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/graphics-on-xbox-su15-drastically-
deteriorated/643896/261?u=gustycoyote5612
EDIT: Starting a flight now, and none of the buttons are responding anymore. Ugh.
Now although we talk about the .17 beta - which was brilliant for me - the .16 seemed - to my memory at least - better than what we have in SU15, the .18 beta. As it was supposed to have been just a rollback to .16 - GDK reversion, I wonder whether something went awry with the rollback, not sure…
Without a proper statement or formal update from the FS team, it’s difficult for us to understand what went wrong or what improvements we can expect in the short term. It’s essential for the team to acknowledge and work towards resolving these issues IMO. Let’s hope for better communication and progress in the future.
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Totally agree with you - I was trying to figure why some see it as less of an issue than others…
And yes, I do (still) think that MSFS is lacking the QA culture that is needed in quite a big way, More emphasis on this would reap rewards for the MSFS team. With the SU 15 betas there seemed to be a somewhat weird obsession with edit- increasing the amount of Live Traffic in the skies when I would have thought there were far greater priorities….
Anyway let’s hope this issue can be fixed or at least improved for us.
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My last couple of flights have been really good. Here is a night approach in San Juan:
Here is a screenshot of just after a takeoff roll, which i was surprised with this one.
These also tend to be crisper before I post them on here. Having to zoom in and reduce size degrades it bit.
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Today is One Month (4wks) since SU15 was released. Can we get word on the SU that is going to fix our minimal LOD distance?
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I uninstalled the SIM a few days ago but I follow the reports here. The perspectives remain the same. What is a shame!
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My experience with SU15 has been terrible. I used to fly daily, but now with how bad the scenery is I’m not encouraged to fly. Even the smaller Planes doing VFR are not worth the time and money I’ve put into this Sim. Not seeing the point of flying if the immersion is killed when you look out the window to see a world that looks like a pixel art game. I complete understand the console’s limitations, but SU14 compared to this is very disappointing, for me at least.
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I can’t come to terms with how ugly became Msfs.
Approach on LOWI with A320 neo v2 today. (SérieX 32Go RC)
I feel like playing DOOM 1993.
Poor textures, very low raw distance, and bad LOD
Very sad 
If msfs 2024 will be an upgrade of 2020
I can’t believe that it is going to be as beautiful as in the teaser.
It’s probably going to be a huge disappointment
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I wanted to see how Miami held up after watching the newest 2024 trailer this week. 
I was pleasantly surprised that both Miami Beach and Downtown Miami held an acceptable amount of Detail. Downtown would loose it’s photogrammetry when panning and become spikes and odd shapes, but not as bad as some of the other places I’ve been lately. Of course the shipping yard was having trouble, but it’s always been like that when I’ve flow in this area pre SU15. You can still see past downtown is an apocalyptic nightmare of non LOD, no trees, flattened imagery.
However, when I went to return to Miami OPA Locka exec airport KOPF, the LOD SU15 Demon rears its ugly head again. The entire airport was a blotchy burry white blob on the ground. The trees stop generating, and the land looks naked. The runway is so blurry you can’t make out 27R.
“Ughh brother, what is that brother? Brother ewww”
Coming in closer on the approach you start to get trees across the water. Also notice the black tile edge through the middle of the runway.
It’s not until about here the airport starts to render windows on the tower and terminals, starts to define the runway, even though the aiming point markers are blurry and half the runway has Aliasing/jagged pixels down the solid white lines.
When just above the runway you can see it’s still not rendered or loaded at the other end of the runway. It’s like a fake depth of field effect, trying to force perspective. We are taught to focus on the end of the runway for the flare. The end of the runway is blurry! My vision doesn’t work that way. Camera lenses wide open at F1.4 work that way.
The runway should not be loading as I’m landing on it. It should be fully rendered. The LOD is landing at the same time I am. This is unbelievable!
So while I was happy to see the buildings in Downtown Miami, and Miami Beach, the rest is a wash. I’ve done this ‘testing’ with no rolling cache. A 16gb rolling cache. No addons at all and also redownloaded all my content manager items. Tested in Cessna 152/172garmin/172steam, bell407, updated Cowan 125, updated Cowan 500e. It’s not our addons it’s SU15 and it’s unacceptable ‘memory optimizations.’ This is a series x I’m talking about here.
But hey, have fun at FlightExpo! 
Au revior! Enjoy your summer vacations. “The Sim has the best performance numbers we’ve ever seen!” Even though it has come at the cost of everything around us, literally. I guess “The sky is not the limit” … but the GDK and memory usage is. 
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The graphics right now along with the wildly inconsistent frame rates make it look like it’s not even running on a Series X but a budget/midrange PC.
Makes my head spin…how did it all go so wrong?
I have the vanilla game, all the free WU, CU, and SU installed along with a few third party fighter jets. That’s it.
Terrible LOD, tile morphing underneath the plane from time to time, and photogrammetry popping in when I’m almost right on top of objects.
Sad day in flight simulator history.
Oh btw, CTDs are back and frame rates are a mixed bag. Somebody bring back the best SU15 beta please!
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After finally getting hold of A320neoV2 I decided to do some flights over Europe both with and without Live weather.Earlier wasn’t concentrating on graphics/ frame rates.The degradation on Xbox X is serious. As the aircraft would move forward green and brown patches would come up and then change into forest,grass,fauna whatever the case maybe.As you approach an airport there is no runway to be seen unless real close when it just pops up.So do buildings/ houses etc.
On ground while taxing various buildings and airport signs also keep coming up.At this advanced years of FS2020 one doesn’t expect such issues to crop up.
I think SU15 has done more damage than bring about that last huge improvement before FS2024/SU16.However the enhanced A320 neoV2 is certainly to be appreciated.
Thank you for that but please while you fix the graphics give some attention to ATR.
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I agree with this… We seem to have gone quite a few steps backward with SU 15. Sometimes impossible to make runway lights out on night approach, floating static aircraft even at smaller airports e.g., EGGD yesterday. (XSX)
Something seriously wrong here and after all the work we did trying to iron out a long beta phase it is not a good result for anyone. It’s a really poor advert for MSFS 2024 - has got me hoping that XPlane think about coming to Xbox.
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I never thought I’d say this but thank god for Aerosoft. The only work around I’ve found for this SU15 LOD issue is flying in Aerosoft’s North Sea Addon.
Luckily I spend most of my time in the sim in Helicopters, and have enjoyed this addon for awhile. So I have shipped out to be a North Sea Utility pilot, until we get a fix. (July? August? September?) 
Now I don’t have to worry about blurry offline like ground textures, buildings and mountains morphing/popping, no more trees growing miraculously right in front of me… just pure blue ocean water that doesn’t need to render or use memory. All the ships, oil rigs, and windmills hold detail much better out here. So I guess it’s a pirates life for me. 
I sure hope MS/Asobo doesn’t say “we found another 500mb of ram” and then proceed to remove all the water on Xbox for performance. 
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I’m no onger seeing waves moving and collecting up against islands, bays, and the base of ridge lines. Is this a part of the quality regression? Was flying around the Bahamas earlier and no more animated waves. Just static images. 
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I’ve found that if you want waves you have to make the wind layer at least 5knots. The wind in this photo was around 10-15knots to get these waves.
Yea the Caribbean was one of my favorite places to fly… until the Caribbean world update.
I used to fly so many places, Denver and all around Colorado my home state. LA / NYC. Seattle. The salmon river in Idaho. Pairs, Nice and Monaco. The Swiss alps, Sion, Zermatt, Lauterbrunnen, Grindelwald. Mount Everest and the Nangpa, Gokyo and the Khumbu Valleys to Lukla.
Now SU15 has reduced me to flying over the ocean.
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Could this be our salvation?
Is this a joke? Are they trolling us?
I’ve never been a fan of //42 (parallel 42.) They are so proud of their sceneries that are mostly in the sim already. They hardly discount their packs more than 15%. (The latest kittox sale was significant.) I’ve seen better sceneries for free and they insist on $10.99. 
But this? Are they just preying on people with the buzzwords and moment of time marketing ploy. Oh here’s a ‘fix’ for your current problem. Gross.
I will wait for the scenes from the next chapters of this soap opera. For now, on my console the SIM remains uninstalled.
Ive spent a significant amount of money on Xbox MSFS 2020. I understood certain limitations around specific 3rd party add ins but was generally happy. What we have now is total s***. Whoever thought this would be good to Xbox users needs brain surgery! The current version seems to be all about making the WT mods of the 787 and 747 work on Xbox at the expense of all the higher quality 3rd party products that worked fine. I’ve had enough , I’m just not doing any more. It’s ruined!!
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tried a flight today after a little fs base airport update. sim looked a little better and airports objects didn’t pop up as front of you as bad as before.
let’s see if it was an accident or a definitive improvement . but over all , sim has lost a lot of it visual quality on Xbox, that’s sad…
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