How many people have FS2024 but still choose FS2020?

From what I have read there have already been some significant fixes since launch that have improved things considerably. So there is hope.

Because 2024 is so broken, I adopted a similar, but slightly different approach. I considered uninstalling 2024, but having paid Ā£200 for something that is certainly not a step forward from 2020 (they refused the refund), I decided to only use 2024 in free-flight, which avoids most bugs, but does make things a bit limiting…albeit, I have at least something installed on my PC for the cash I have paid out. I obviously have 2020 installed as well.

I did that too, but today got tired even of the free flight bugs with the ā€œhalf-cookedā€ airplanes, specially some of the premium deluxe ones and went back to 2020

I didn’t think I would ever respond to this topic.. but here we are. After a huge amount of tweaking and trying to convince myself that FS2024 can be made to work, I’ve given up. I reinstalled FS2020 and I use that now. 24 is just too full of bugs and simply does not run as well or as reliably (yet). I also don’t like the streaming aspect of it: I would prefer to buy a 6 TB SSD and install the scenery on there if necessary than have to depend on servers and the bandwidth of my internet connection (which is 1 Gbit, but the download is still laggy, probably due to MS’ server). It was a huge mistake to force users to stream - especially aircraft. That decision is utter madness.

I may revisit FS2024 if and when it has been patched / updated. But in my view, the developers need to completely re-evaluate their strategy with it.

Why don’t they offer a loaded hard drive version. I was playing a role playing game once that the developer offered a memory stick loaded with all the books pdf.
I would have considered that as an option instead of pre ordering for 2024.

Can you confirm that this no longer works after today’s update. Doesn’t work for me any more:(

Works for me - it’s on the ā€œMore appsā€ page…

mm.. it’s for X-plane 12 so a few years old and ā€œThe data shown here comes only from paying users of the X-Plane 11 simulator who have opted in to data collection.ā€

Since it’s ā€œopt-inā€ it’s going to be quite limited.

So no, not really.

I am not sure there is really any underlying reason.
I believe someone simple thought it a neat idea and everybody agreed. But nobody then thought to check with users as that would ā€˜give the game away’ as it were. Seems to me that there are two distinct users emerging:
Those happy with a Sim that focusses just on flying
Those that like the gaming aspects.
The great irony is that right now each of these groups appear to have access to their own Sim that appeals to their preference. 2020 and 2024. Long may this situation continue.

I like using MSFS2020 and knowing that when I get to my destination the grass and trees will be there and not loaded in 30 seconds after touchdown.

It’s working OK for me.

Also, the A320 screens are back, presumably an update not listed in the release notes.

EDIT: Actually, it probably is what is listed in the release notes:

Fixed a scenario in which avionics were not functioning on Xbox Series S and Low/Medium graphics setting on PC

The streaming decision in itself probably wasnt madness but a necessity due to the amount of data that would have to be stored.
The implimentation though needs work, no doubt.

Today was the day for me…after endless frustration with 2024 I switched back to 2020. Whished I made this decision much earlier. Now I concentrate again on the joy of flying. Perhaps some far day I try 2024 again, but very sure not for the next months.

Having gone through the 2020 launch, which was rough as well, I held off on 2024 to see how it would go. Glad I did. It took 2020 a good 6-8 months of patching to really get most things nailed down. I expect the same here, for 2024. What bothered me back then, and I assume it will continue in 2024 is the slow pace of updates, an update once a month or every two months. And then, when they do an update, it’s like 2 steps ahead, one back…because it will fix things and then break others. My other concern is, whatever updates we do get will initially focus on the career mode, and those of us, that are more hard core simmers will have to wait even longer to be able to enjoy 2024 to the same level we could in 2020. When I can fire up 2024, and have confidence it will just work, and I can just focus on enjoying high fidelity aircraft, then I’ll be all in 2024…

The Simbrief app on the EFB is still working, but when I hit ā€œimport flight planā€ (or something similar, not at computer right now) in the Simbrief app, the flight plan doesn’t get transferred to the regular efb flight planner anymore. Will need to investigate more…

X4. Dunno what that is, I guess it is making your cessna 172 go 500mph.

Really do not see the point in complaining about a supposedly serious flight ā€œsimulatorā€ not allowing you to break the laws of physics.

Plenty of machines in the amusement arcades allow you to do that. 50p a play.

Vista eh? I’m glad I gave that up!

My MSFS24 came with my new computer with a bunch of other games, etc. so I don’t feel bad about having to pay for it.

Still though, I find it very hard to love the sim. and hope that things get sorted before long.

Cheers!

I gave 24 another shot. Decent perf doing some GA flying with PG off and FG off. Loaded up the Fenix, not so good. Horrid perf with FG turned on at a default airport with no PG.

Problem is my vram, which will be upgraded soon. Until then, still sticking with 2020.

They can’t even keep a Tail number on an aircraft, and their focus seems to be Career Mode? I really don’t think they are focused, nor is there any communication.

I’ve been very happy in MSFS 2020…I hope they don’t try and fix that one also!

I do not recommend MSFS 2024 YET! Wish I never made the purchase.

Being a pmdg 737 junkie I’m not even thinking about a sim that does’t support my addiction. Not so sure I will be too quick to switch even when pmdg releases there 2024 version.
Still very new to MSFS 2020 and after being a long time user of P3D, have my hands full getting my head around MSFS’s extremely annoying camera system and restrictive audio system when comes to pmdg 737.