Is anyone else really dissapointed?

No, the bug reporting system helps narrow things down to what version windows, what version of game, etc that help identify where problems are.

Forum posts are mostly just “Whaaa! X doesn’t work!” which isnt helpful at all.

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So inflammatory. :roll_eyes:

The flight sim market works the same way for XPlane and P3D; the sim provides an environment with basic scenery and planes, then 3rd parties make things targeted to different customers.

How do you know your frame rates? I’m used to FSX which had a counter in the top left of the screen but have no idea how you find out in MSFS. This one doesn’t even allow you to escape from full screen view. Am I missing something? By the way I’ve not had any problems with the smoothness in the sim, with everything on the highest settings. I have an i9-9900KF running on a 500GB Samsung 970 EVO SSD, RTX 2070 Super 8GB and 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Ram but currently only a HD 1920x1200 monitor. May well upgrade to 4K if the lousy mesh resolution is improved.

You can get it from Afterburner (free, from MSI, works with any GPU though) for example. Or in developer mode of MSFS, you can turn it on, too.

You’re right. BUTT:

• Many more people can report bugs and wishes
• Developers will analyze the popularity, which means MANY more add-ons in the future
• Johnny Knoxville once said on “Hot Ones”: If you’re not failing at something, you’re not trying hard enough

I am grateful for mistakes and even more grateful for criticism and suggestions to do better.
Since neither Microsoft nor Asobo Studios are in any way stupid, they’ll learn and grow from
any user who constructively communicates these issues.

We just need to be patient, easy to understand and honest.

Cheers
Steffo

PS: We can already be very happy about what we get to experience with our eyes and hands now.

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I am Almost 50 and have flown all kinds of PC flight sims starting from the 1980s and
THIS IS THE BEST PC FLIGHT SIMULATOR EVER !

Sure its a bit buggy but it just came out so no big deal. It is atleast 1 million times better than FSX .

IMO this game sets new standards in PC flight sims and really there is no comparison.

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Well, i don’t want to register on more than one site to get support, I’m already here and on steam and i don’t think devs look at the latter forums. We are customers, they should simplify.

And i don’t give a ■■■■ if people are posting trash on the forums as “bug descriptions”.

You should really change your attitude. 5 minutes of easy research would’ve done the job, as it has done for me…

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No i am dissatisfied with something and i want a change, and someone got upset for it. Not dealing with that.

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cant we all just get along :joy: I wonder what the next Carenado release will be? I hope its the PC12 that was a lot of fun in XP11

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Not in flammatory at all I’m upset that I paid extra for nothing,and I got ripped off as they refuse to refund me. We shouldn’t need EXTRA to fix what we were told was included…come-on Washington missing world famous landmarks,no light atop of the Luxor ,the problem with photo real scenery is it’s flat buildings Don’t shine in the sun or reflect this they look muddy dull…be happy with it but I am not and I wanted my money back.in my opinion it’s not what was promised…

I get over 60 FPS, maybe you need to upgrade from a potato :joy:

about 50fps for me and my rig.

I run at Ultra presets with my EVGA 1080 FTW, but I’m sure my 9900K helps with that.

same big ol’ beast working in my one. did help to upgrade from my good ol’ 3990k, hahaha.

Reading through a lot of the threads and comments has been really interesting. It seems like the flight simulator community has been abused for the last decade. The developer abandoned FSX before they fixed everything. X-Plane has been somewhat haphazard. Now, the bar for the developer has been set so low that many in the community will actually defend the release of broken, partially complete products.

To paraphrase: Oh, don’t worry, third-party developers will make all sorts of great planes, scenery, weather, water, flight-models, etc.

That is the thing - they (third-party) shouldn’t have to fill in any gaps. While community development is awesome, that sort of defense of the prime developer wouldn’t happen, and wouldn’t work, with most AAA game titles. It is supposed to be a polished, fully-playable product when it is released. While bugs in software happen, they generally don’t on this scale for production products. Try to think of another consumer item where many of you would be willing to give this sort of deference to the manufacturer for faults in the product or service.

I completely agree with those in this thread that are “disappointed.” They likely paid way too much money for a product that isn’t ready for prime time. The morally correct thing for the developer to do would be prorated refunds for everyone based on the release of an alpha or “early access” product. They can charge more when it becomes worth more.

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i once bought some kind of expensive car two years ago - had to spend two whole weeks with it and the dealer after it got to me to get the “shoot” fixed. there still a couple of things left but i can live with that. it’s everydays “shoot” but don’t exepect my dealer to give me $ 5k back for the hassle.

even they did mention “nothing but the best” or so in their trailers… well, i beg you…

and don’t let me go ahead and tell you what’s it’s like to build a housing for yourself.

do i like it - no. can i change things? no.

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“can i change things? no.”

Oh come on, don’t take this attitude. While changing things can be difficult, you, and people in general should have the optimism that you can change things.

From lack of benefits, “crunch” where large amounts of what would be overtime is not compensated, to harassment and gender discrimination in the workplace. There are multiple documentaries now on how toxic video game development has become. Meeting the timeline has become more important than releasing a good product, and in the background those that make it happen may be treated poorly by their employer.

You can always change things, even if just in a small way. You can advocate in forums like this one, write reviews, you can send e-mail and mail to express your views to the company, and you can vote with your wallet.

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kinda philosophical but being in this dev business for two decades now, being self employed and having a bit more than half of my life behind me i just do think, i won’t change a lot of things in a meaningful way, haha - forums, twitter and such won’t do a lot.

you may disagree which is fine but let’s get back to the topic, uh?

ps: but keep your spirit, will you !

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It’s a bit like Asobo has real skills in designing beautiful houses, but they are not architects. They promised me the best house of the world, and boys, sure this house is beautiful !!

But the kitchen is broken, the bathroom unusable, … everything else is beautiful, but not as good as advertised.

And now people are telling me “don’t be a whiner, there will be specialists who will repair your kitchen, build a fancy bathroom, etc…” Of course, if you pay them on top of what you already paid for the complete house…

And that’s the problem ! I understand every room in the house can’t be the best of the world. But I still want to be able to use it without having to pay someone else to do the job. I will pay them if I want a better kitchen, sure, but not just to be able to use my kitchen !

So please, Asobo, fix the live weather to work as advertised, fix the modern flight model so I can’t taxi the XCub tail up at 10kts without using the brakes, so I can’t put the DV20 on its tail without even rolling, so fuel flow are not over the charts, etc…

I want to pay specialists to upgrade my house, not to fix it…

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