Just Flight Hawk T.1

some crazy location like the colorado canyon to put fire to the plane? I don’t know which areas to go to

Really loving the Hawk. Bit of a handful on take off but i wouldn’t want it to be too easy. Quick flight round Valley & the loop bumping into other Hawks. Multiplayer is such a great experience when it works properly, which is rare.

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Super fun aircraft to fly. Need to practice a bit more and as said, a bit of a handful on the ground!

Definitely worth a look and great fun at RAF Valley with the other Hawks flying about! :metal: :grin:


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My first Just Flight product and fighter jet in MSFS. It is definitely different than flying any of the default aircraft in MSFS or even Hornet in DCS as manual trim is needed. I didn’t expect the Hawk to be this fast and fuel hungry.

Trimming is a bit of a nuisance as the sweet spot always moves because of engine (the rpm seem to increase on their own) or weather. For some reason, if I use my normal setup of trim wheel in thrustmaster TWCS, the wheel is inverted to every other aircraft except Grob by Iris Simulations.

Exterior model is gorgeous, internal model is ok, no complaints. In VR, everything works… almost, but turning HSI and heading dials is a bit annoying. The click spots are small and it takes forever to spin the HSI course (not the heading) with a mouse. My GPS is in horizontal position instead of vertical as in the promo pictures, which is nice, but the VR click spots seem to work sometimes and other times I cannot get the cursor on top of the right touch screen button on the right side of the screen.

My first landing was a disaster. The plane does not “glide” with full flaps. You have to increase power substantially and there is a long lag getting that power up. When you know this, landing is not so hard. Braking is a bit harder than usual, for me at least, and I tend to weer off the center line easily.

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Just having fun buzzing around Valley in multiplayer and seeing @KJKerr sat on the ground :grin:

This plane is so good it’s untrue, I feel like I’m cheating on my wife as my beloved F-15 that @DEAN01973 created is not getting much air time at the moment :joy:

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I saw your low pass right over my head… heard it too! Just chilling on the forum while sitting at Valley.

@KJKerr and @NeilPearlJam I chased you two all the way up to the lake district. Had to really flog the ponies to catch up. Pity it was getting late (for me) otherwise I’d have stayed with you longer. I will have to look out for you both again some other time.

Ahh, I noticed you at Valley, now the name rings a bell

My first TWO landings were disasters. :slight_smile: The third time, I read the manual…

I’ve learned – and any real pilots, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong – that whereas GA aircraft and airliners are mostly forgiving at low speeds (because they usually have a lot of lifting power in their wings), military jets are extremely unforgiving (because they are usually built to minimize drag, and the easiest way to help with that that is to use the minimum wing surface that you can get away with). With a GA plane, you cut your speed, drop your flaps, and mosey on in to the runway. If you try that with a miljet, you will meet the ground in a very rapid fashion.

EVERYTHING is about energy management in a military jet. I started getting actual survivable landings when I started targeting specific airspeeds on approach and landing. (The Hawk’s tutorial write-up is a really good guide to how you do this in practice.) Flaps on a miljet aren’t really there just to provide additional lift (although they do); they’re also there to gimp the plane’s aerodynamic performance so you can use the engine to control speed more precisely (vs. zooming to 400 knots when you try and lower your rate of descent).

The lesson I’ve learned is that you can fly the stick when landing in a GA plane, but you always fly the throttle in a fighter. Once you get the hang of that, the landings get more consistent and accurate.

Having said all that, I’m loving the Hawk, although its fuel burn rate is stupid high. Unless there’s something amiss with the model, I can’t believe these are actually used for combat roles, given that they appear to have a sortie range of about 150 NM… and that’s without any load. Yikes…

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I’ve got my landings in the Hawk down to a tee now. Once you know to get it down to about 150kts and keep it at that you pretty much can’t go wrong. The flaps really don’t give you a whole lot of lift.

I’ll also note that my first two disaster landings were in the course of my first three flights. The other one ended when I crashed into the side of the Grand Canyon at 500 knots*. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU DO WITH THESE JETS!!! (Well, except for the crashing part.)

And later that day, I saw at least two other Hawks doing the exact same canyon run I was attempting to do. Great minds, etc.!

*Or thereabouts. I didn’t note the exact speed, as I was, you know, attempting to not crash into the side of the canyon…

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I’d imagine most people spaffed it across the runway on that first attempt at landing, it goes from rocket to rock very quickly.

Still better than the Space Shuttle, probably, as that was described by one of the astronauts as having “the aerodynamics of a set of car keys”…

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The installer doesn’t find my custom MSFS install folder and installs the plane into an incorrect folder. Anyone else with this problem?

Well we did manage to almost get into formation flying for a few moments. But my goodness that’s not very easy is it? I think the hawk is going to have to be tamed, or perhaps it will tame me as a pilot.

Realised earlier that the keybinds for ‘toggle VS hold’, ‘autopilot reference VS’ and ‘autopilot reference altitude’ all work with the rudimentary autopilot on the EFB.

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Another wet day in East Anglia…

Following on from my screenshot last night with a Hawk at RAF Coningsby, we just have to salute the Tornado years at RAF Honington.

Freeware scenery is HERE

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Got that scenery, just not visited it yet…going to have to go there now and hope that JF bring out their Tonka for MSFS.

With regards to the Hawk I need to RTFM, after finding and catching up to you I overshot, then when I throttled back my CWP lit up and I was then scrambling to reset it, especially as this flagged a number of my instruments including the HSI, Attitude indicator and the main altimeter.

Also I do find myself having to trim the aircraft and/or balance the throttle almost constantly, I’m trying to either avoid TGT over temps or the CWP situation above.

So back to the manual and I’ll look out for you again some other time.

I grabbed this over the weekend and I’ve been having a blast with it. I have to ask though, as someone from the US I’m extremely ignorant when it comes to flying in the UK, so what are the typical bases these fly out of? I’ve seen Valley mentioned and did some flying around there the other day, but for the sake of realism, what other areas should I be checking out? Thanks!

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Per Wikipedia it’s training out of RAF Valley and RAF Leeming, with the Red Arrows based at RAF Scampton. Plus the Royal Navy out of RNAS Culdrose.