Given the nature of live weather, how are we meant to provide steps for reproduction?
In these instances, there’s no reproduction. You may report the in-game METAR (which will have a date/time stamp) as well as a screenshot of that METAR area.
No lightning no CB clouds. In fact there was a tornado warning a short while ago. @Hester40MT is it possible we can just get some assurance from Asobo that they are working on all these bugs and that we may someday see the glorious cloudscapes from before SU7? I don’t think that is too much to ask and I think most here would be satisfied just knowing they are working on it. There is just such a lack of communication about weather from the dev’s that makes it frustrating. Nothing is ever mentioned in the Q&A’s and all these items just sit as bug logged. Jorge mentioned a long time ago they were working on stuff for weather that would “blow us away” yet nothing has ever come of that
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Indeed he did. I’ll ask about it.
For those interested, the Dev Q&A this was brought up in (Martial & Jorg) - under the section:
“Can we have an update on the big weather news that Jorg teased a couple Q&A ago”:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/twitch-dev-q-a-06302021/418321
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That would be great…we could all use some reassurance at this point.
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Thanks! I think we can all agree we just want to see the weather at it’s full potential
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Ever since su7 were released with the visuals aspects from those METAR i have noticed the quality of the visuals in weather (both locally near airports with METAR and globally) were reduced to be able to have a bit more accurate weather near airports with METAR. For me that change were far from worth it. I know this is subjective. Those who actually want the weather to be as METAR says wants the METAR to disturb the Meteoblue data and i bet those users enjoy the sim more now than before su7. But for us that doesn’t need the weather to be as METAR says all the time enjoys the sim much less after su7. The community knows that the weather model has changed since su7 and i bet Asobo knows the weather model has changed since su7 too. They even explained it for us. That means the weather model as a whole is the issue for us that has been voted on this thread. It’s hard to pinpoint one specific issue because it’s a completely different weather model that works completely different than previous model. Either we like it or not. My suggestion is to add an option to be able to use the old weather model that we here that voting on this topic found much better than this new model to make us enjoy the sim equally much as those that wanted the METAR to disturb the Meteoblue model. Sometimes even those that wanted the METAR to disturb wants to feel the fluidness/variedness of weather the older weather model gave us. I can’t see it happening that they will make both sides happy at the same with only one weather model as they said soon 2 years ago after su7 were released. I feel it’s 2 different opinions that conficts. Thanx
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EKCH: The in-sim weather is accurate only insofar as there are clouds roughly where the METAR report puts them, although the lower layer isn’t FEW and the upper layer isn’t BKN. But the major issue is that it’s cauliflower puffs as ever, although we know from before SU5/SU7 that such cloudscapes as in the webcam shot are possible, even with Live weather.
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EKCH (seen her from Malmo near the Belt Bridge that leads to the airport - roughly the same view as from the webacam shot))
A similar skyscape from before SU5: (Live Weather, also at EKCH by coincidence)
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Ever since the Metar implemention in SU7, whenever I use live weather (something I used 100% of the time pre SU7 and only 10% of my time post SU7, generally just to check if things have improved or not) I encounter one or more of the following: reduction in variety of clouds, ‘sameness’ of clouds, weather bubbles around airports, harsh transitions that result in entire cloudscapes blinking in and out of existence, less frequently the colour of the sky flickering in an instant from one filter to another, most noticeable at twilight or at night. And resident otherworldly ‘clouds’ over Dublin. I encountered none of these issues pre SU7, where I found live weather to be excellent, something that made me happy to recommend MSFS to friends. Ideally I would love to see an option introduced to allow users choose between legacy pre SU7 live weather or continue with SU7 Metar integration.
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This sim can look SO beautiful with the way the lighting engine changes based on high level clouds. I created a overcast layer around 25000 feet and a few clouds layer around 3000 feet. I so miss the days we would get this kind of depiction in Live weather. Breaking our BELOW layers. Oh how I wish we would get an update purely on weather and cloud depiction. We need some randomness! and high level overcast!
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Are you sure it should looks like that with overcast sky in the evening? For me it looks pretty unrealistic in terms of colors
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There’s another thread where it might be beneficial to vote:
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Live weather is still not accurate at all and neither matches Meteoblue forecast nor METAR. I am approaching Queenstown from Sydney, just hitting the coast of New Zealand.
Meteoblue shows this, where the weather is supposed to be coming from, 95% cover low clouds, and 95% cover high clouds.
Sim, not a cloud in sight.
Please, what is going on with live weather, why does it not match the data that is supposed to be being generated from? How are we supposed to do flight planning? Please we need a dev to explain what is happening.
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That is Meteoblue’s nowcast map, which is their model data + live data blended together, similar to what Asobo is trying to do with some of their weather data (albeit Meteoblue does it much better). The data Asobo gets from Meteoblue is model data only, which is updated every 6 - 12 hours. There is currently no way to easily validate that the MSFS clouds accurately matches the Meteoblue model data, at least after the first forecast hour. (especially in areas where meteoblue gets live data) because we don’t have access to the raw data.
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Yet another example of broken high clouds, that are broken:
To clarify: The live weather is broken, the clouds are not showing as broken. High level clouds are so badly broke. Sad thing is, they did not used to be before SU5-ish or before X-Box and METAR implementation. Apparently, this cannot be fixed or would have been a long time ago?
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thank you to the Mod @Hester40MT who updated my post above with relevant questions/answers, that was incredible thank you!
Also to help the devs - this is what real world web cam shows for METAR above FEW 100 and BKN 250:
Well since there was zero discussion of weather on todays Dev Q and A on May 03, 2023, and since my flight today handed me yet another example of anemic and weak high clouds, I will make this post.
Heres what I saw today that shows it still needs fixing:
The sim used to do a good job with higher overcasts/cloud decks.
Here are some related threads:
High clouds overcast and local convection, where are they? - Bug Reports & Wishlist / Weather & Live Weather - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
No high altitude clouds or layers of stratus with Live Weather anymore - Bug Reports & Wishlist / Weather & Live Weather - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
Sim now seems incapable of rendering overcast using live weather - Bug Reports & Wishlist / Wishlist - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
Clouds are too transparent - Bug Reports & Wishlist / Weather & Live Weather - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums
I’m really tired of voting so hopefully this post will serve as at least one noticeable vote.
I really do not understand why it is so hard to bring back something we once had.
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A post was merged into an existing topic: Dense high level clouds open into a ring of clear weather directly above that follows the plane