[Released] Wing42 Boeing 247D

Also, just to verify, have you pushed the primer pump in? I see it is pulled out in picture. It is a pump, so it only introduces fuel to the cylinders when pushed in. Try giving it 3 pumps and then leaving it pushed in.

Yeah, I just wanted to show it out in case somebody were to look and say it isn’t coming out far enough.

Ah wait, you were saying “battery switch,” and I was parsing that as “ignition switch.” The manual didn’t say anything about a master battery switch. I was expecting there would be one, but since it wasn’t mentioned in the start up checklist and because the panel lights were working I didn’t think to look for one. @OneFang666 mentioned it is red…Lemme go look for that in the cockpit diagram that and try again.

Yes! That was the issue. Finally saw it on the cockpit diagram. Either I missed it in the startup video or he turned it on early and I didn’t see it. Now things are working as expected. Thank you both for your help!

@GMVitus, please add “Turn on master battery switch (push down)” to the 8.1 engine start preparations checklist. That is a crucial ommision!

[EDIT]Still unable to get both engines started, and it appears from watching videos that the battery switch is not required. I must have gotten lucky with the left engine startup immediately after trying that. Anyway, I’m pretty sure I’m dealing with an add-on conflict or a bug; the fuel flow needles are vibrating all over the place when I use the wobble pump and I can’t get a steady reading from the LVAR.[/EDIT]

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Such a beautiful aircraft, at the price of EUR 17,- is unbeatable!

Try to activate KGPI Tower Freq at 126.55, but don’t know how to (although I could manually switch to 126.5 or any freq with 1st decimal)

Beside that I see the Fuel Gauges indicatior for both always “0”?

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There’s two plungers to the left of the fuel tank gauges you have to pull out to see the fuel levels. It goes back down again so you have to pull them out to check again after a while. Also the right gauge is for both of the smaller tanks and there’s a switch to change which one is displayed.

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Ah, I did that already I saw both arrow indicators rorate, but then they are back to “0”, is it correct that the maximum both indicators can reach display our current fuel in tanks?

I still don’t know how to communicate with tower /approach freqs with 2 digit decimal.

I don’t think it can have two behind the decimal. And tbh even that is outdated. At least in the UK planes need to be able to have 3 before and after the decimal.

I really wish for an usable radio in this thing.

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Having read many of the comments posted here I have managed to get the 247 started after a number of flights by ensuring that everything this is closed down/switched off after every flight and unticking the plane realistic start on the menu on the clipboard. I have also worked out the u/c retraction by using the lever in the cockpit rather than using the buttons on my joystick
/keyboard which is implied in the manual. I will attempt realistic starts once I am confident with all the other systems but it seems that many users are still finding this challenging. I presume the developers will review elements of this great aircraft ensure realistic starts can be mastered.

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Sorry, sitting on the sidelines a bit, as I have bought the plane but haven’t had time to fly it yet. I have been reading the thread and find it quite amusing.

Everyone clamouring for a study level plane, then one comes out and a load of people can’t even start the engine :slight_smile:

I’m not taking the mick really but I get the sense nobody wants to be the one that says “it’s too hard!!!” lol

Don’t worry - give me a couple of hours (or perhaps tomorrow) and it will be me that pipes up I’m sure :smiley:

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I am finding it hard to trim level or straight.
I also seem to be having problems in getting the RPM down, take out the MP and the RPM remains high and the nose rises. RPM drops, add MP and the RPM rises despite the rpm control being off.

I need to read the manually fully - but its exhibiting behaviours I am not used to.

Its as great sounding and looking plane …

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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I kind of feel that this plane has somehow brought a lot of the community together. Kind of a brotherhood, with everyone trying to help each other, with some having success with the plane, some not, but even that’s ok. A we’re kind of all in it together sort of feeling . Like a sort of bond. Especially love the pics bring posted of unsuccessful take offs and landings and with no feelings of ‘you’re better than me’, no judgements. This is how it should be because really we’re all here for the same reason - a common love for aviation.
Thanks Wing42 for bringing us all together and for your choice of aircraft - it’s been a great leveller!

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Woweee, my gosh! Just done my first little test flight. What a creation! The thing’s alive. What a visceral experience!! Really stonkingly good. Very satisfying indeed.

Must admit I don’t really understand the dials. Needles jumping about all over the place. Not sure if that’s good or bad. Like the thing is possessed and getting messages from “the other side”!

Still I managed to start it - for now with ‘realistic engine starts’ off until I get my head around it. Even so there is a fair bit to do to kick it into running. Such awesome sounds when it fires up!!

So, now that I’ve stopped, you’re saying if I don’t shut everything down properly, I’ll have problems the next time I load the plane??!!??

A lot to learn here but pretty happy to get her down on the ground very smoothly (in some pretty bad weather in UK I hasten to add).

Flies really stable and I didn’t have any problems with pitch trim once I figured out it’s got a long and slow moving “range” with my controller. Means you can get it very precise though compared to the big notchy steps of some other planes I could mention.

Amazing aircraft though. I hope their pricing experiment works out coz this is worth a LOT more.

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Very important for startup: Use the primer handle to prime the selected engine by gently pulling the primer out
and pushing it back in. use 1-3 strokes if it is warm outside, 4-5 if it is below more is better than less. okay

Happy flying with the 247D

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It just needs a cold&dark option on the fly board in my opinion and trimming needs to be taken a look at hence it’s bit slow to respond with binds and the leveling to altitude is a bit all over the place during cruise. I could not keep my hands off trimming during my entire flights from the moment i took off until landing.

With that said: Beautifully done raw immersive plane!

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You won’t have problems, per se. But I’ve found that you need to toggle switches and valves to get its setting to be properly recognized. For example, if you leave the fuel selector on the both setting from your previous flight, you will need to switch it to another setting then back again.

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Got you. Thanks for that. Gonna fly something else for a bit before bed then give this another longer bash tomorrow after reading the manual PDF!!

My whole engine startup troubles went away as soon as I cold booted my computer (complete shutdown).
Now both engines start, temperature rises/falls, smoke is being displayed now and there a more roll sounds audible (rattling etc.).

I recommend shutting down completely after each flight. Force it to start next time as cold and dark.

The dials (and everything else for that matter) are jumping around because those big engines give the plane a good and constant shake!

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Yea I noticed all the levers rattling around. Lovely touch! The main needles that were doing a dance were the 2 fuel gauges at top right. Fuel flow I think? Noticed the fuel level (behind yoke) only shows up temporarily when you pull each “detector” lever out so guess the other 2 are flow. They were swinging wildly!

Finally had a good few flights with the 247D. Had to watch the manifold pressure and RPMs like a hawk. The white arc is not for cruise just in case anyone thought like I did. Takeoff is at the high end of the white arc, climb is in the middle, and cruise is at the low end of the arc. If you are flying over 2,200 RPM and 32 MP you will find your engines on fire after just a few minutes. Get into the red and the engines will fail very quickly.

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