Ah, I did that already I saw both arrow indicators rorate, but then they are back to “0”, is it correct that the maximum both indicators can reach display our current fuel in tanks?
I still don’t know how to communicate with tower /approach freqs with 2 digit decimal.
I don’t think it can have two behind the decimal. And tbh even that is outdated. At least in the UK planes need to be able to have 3 before and after the decimal.
I really wish for an usable radio in this thing.
Having read many of the comments posted here I have managed to get the 247 started after a number of flights by ensuring that everything this is closed down/switched off after every flight and unticking the plane realistic start on the menu on the clipboard. I have also worked out the u/c retraction by using the lever in the cockpit rather than using the buttons on my joystick
/keyboard which is implied in the manual. I will attempt realistic starts once I am confident with all the other systems but it seems that many users are still finding this challenging. I presume the developers will review elements of this great aircraft ensure realistic starts can be mastered.
Sorry, sitting on the sidelines a bit, as I have bought the plane but haven’t had time to fly it yet. I have been reading the thread and find it quite amusing.
Everyone clamouring for a study level plane, then one comes out and a load of people can’t even start the engine 
I’m not taking the mick really but I get the sense nobody wants to be the one that says “it’s too hard!!!” lol
Don’t worry - give me a couple of hours (or perhaps tomorrow) and it will be me that pipes up I’m sure 
I am finding it hard to trim level or straight.
I also seem to be having problems in getting the RPM down, take out the MP and the RPM remains high and the nose rises. RPM drops, add MP and the RPM rises despite the rpm control being off.
I need to read the manually fully - but its exhibiting behaviours I am not used to.
Its as great sounding and looking plane …
I kind of feel that this plane has somehow brought a lot of the community together. Kind of a brotherhood, with everyone trying to help each other, with some having success with the plane, some not, but even that’s ok. A we’re kind of all in it together sort of feeling . Like a sort of bond. Especially love the pics bring posted of unsuccessful take offs and landings and with no feelings of ‘you’re better than me’, no judgements. This is how it should be because really we’re all here for the same reason - a common love for aviation.
Thanks Wing42 for bringing us all together and for your choice of aircraft - it’s been a great leveller!
Woweee, my gosh! Just done my first little test flight. What a creation! The thing’s alive. What a visceral experience!! Really stonkingly good. Very satisfying indeed.
Must admit I don’t really understand the dials. Needles jumping about all over the place. Not sure if that’s good or bad. Like the thing is possessed and getting messages from “the other side”!
Still I managed to start it - for now with ‘realistic engine starts’ off until I get my head around it. Even so there is a fair bit to do to kick it into running. Such awesome sounds when it fires up!!
So, now that I’ve stopped, you’re saying if I don’t shut everything down properly, I’ll have problems the next time I load the plane??!!??
A lot to learn here but pretty happy to get her down on the ground very smoothly (in some pretty bad weather in UK I hasten to add).
Flies really stable and I didn’t have any problems with pitch trim once I figured out it’s got a long and slow moving “range” with my controller. Means you can get it very precise though compared to the big notchy steps of some other planes I could mention.
Amazing aircraft though. I hope their pricing experiment works out coz this is worth a LOT more.
Very important for startup: Use the primer handle to prime the selected engine by gently pulling the primer out
and pushing it back in. use 1-3 strokes if it is warm outside, 4-5 if it is below more is better than less. okay
Happy flying with the 247D
It just needs a cold&dark option on the fly board in my opinion and trimming needs to be taken a look at hence it’s bit slow to respond with binds and the leveling to altitude is a bit all over the place during cruise. I could not keep my hands off trimming during my entire flights from the moment i took off until landing.
With that said: Beautifully done raw immersive plane!
You won’t have problems, per se. But I’ve found that you need to toggle switches and valves to get its setting to be properly recognized. For example, if you leave the fuel selector on the both setting from your previous flight, you will need to switch it to another setting then back again.
Got you. Thanks for that. Gonna fly something else for a bit before bed then give this another longer bash tomorrow after reading the manual PDF!!
My whole engine startup troubles went away as soon as I cold booted my computer (complete shutdown).
Now both engines start, temperature rises/falls, smoke is being displayed now and there a more roll sounds audible (rattling etc.).
I recommend shutting down completely after each flight. Force it to start next time as cold and dark.
The dials (and everything else for that matter) are jumping around because those big engines give the plane a good and constant shake!
Yea I noticed all the levers rattling around. Lovely touch! The main needles that were doing a dance were the 2 fuel gauges at top right. Fuel flow I think? Noticed the fuel level (behind yoke) only shows up temporarily when you pull each “detector” lever out so guess the other 2 are flow. They were swinging wildly!
Finally had a good few flights with the 247D. Had to watch the manifold pressure and RPMs like a hawk. The white arc is not for cruise just in case anyone thought like I did. Takeoff is at the high end of the white arc, climb is in the middle, and cruise is at the low end of the arc. If you are flying over 2,200 RPM and 32 MP you will find your engines on fire after just a few minutes. Get into the red and the engines will fail very quickly.
Well I managed to get it to load up once and now every time I try to load a flight with it I get a CTD, even if I delete it’s simobjects folder under appdata which caches settings.
After my earlier flight, I tried a little circuit around San Francisco. Outside air temps were 62F, so I selected SAE30 (20F - 95F) and did a complete oil change just to be safe. Let the engines warm up a good long time. Pressures and temps were great. Took off, climbed to about 3,000’ over the hills south of the city proper, at 1,900RPM or so and 30" MAP maybe (middle of the white band). Suddenly oil pressures dropped to zero on both engines and they quit. I cut fuel to both, feathered the props, and somewhat hilariously, managed a deadstick landing across the Bay at what used to be RWY 31 of NAS Alameda. There was close to a 30 knot headwind (tailwind as I was descending). So when I turned my wing to line up, my ground speed plummeted much faster than my airspeed. I was as close to standing still on touchdown as I think I’ve managed in anything bigger in the sim than the Ziln.
Of course, I have zero idea why the engnes quit. I managed to get them restarted briefly on the ground with the idea of flying back to KSFO but they refused to run for more than 20 - 30 seconds. We DEFINITELY need some kind of “Mechanics Page” on the Clipboard to tell us what we broke!
I quit the flight, spawned again back at KSFO and changed the oil to SAE50 on a lark. I restarted the engines and let them warm up again. This time, the right engine - despite being started after the left - started running at lower oil pressure and slightly higher oil temps than the left. Oil pressures were right around 70 psi, maybe a bit higher. But the left engine remained pegged for another few minutes. Pressures finally started coming down but they never got as low as the right engine. I played around with the oil cooler flaps and carb heat levers to see if I could change anything but could draw no conclusions so finally called it quits.
At least Alameda made a nice emergency landing spot.
Are you using the right oil. Oil for high temperatures is nearly hard in Cold Weather and therefor stays cold cause I cannot flow and take up some heat.
This aircraft predates using viscosity modifiers to create multigrade oils.
In fact this is a period where engines were left running overnight or started every few hours in cold weather to keep the oil useable. In some cases engines were even fitted with burners that needed to be lit up for a few hours to warm the engine oil before a start was attempted.
Here is a good historical discussion on oils …
This hilarious video exemplifies what starting an old radial is all about (be sure to read the commentary)
