I understand that this is an issue for everyone.
I just have one question for all that`s still complaining…
Do you read all the comments in a thread??
I have been having a great time flying in career mode, due to a tip posted earlier in this thread.
I`ll have you all go through this entire thread to find the golden nugget. 
This is what works
The wind was the same on the ground but that doesn’t matter with you. You make it a point to push everyone in this thread. I was barely off the runway I posted. Next time I will get the reading off the runway.
I’m sick of the wind. Just crashed again due to having my 172 waving back and forth 45 degrees in either direction combined with 5000ft/sec up/down drafts. Just utterly sick of this ■■■■.
If this was like actually flying a 172, PPLs would not exist. It would be too dangerous to let anyone near a small plane.
I’m trying to push data. That’s what matters. You didn’t specify - you took an uncorrelated screenshot and passed it off anecdotally. If you want devs to fix this, they need the right info. This is literally a bug report thread and what you posted could be interpreted in a lot of ways, no matter how mad you are.
Knowing that it might be pushing wind aloft data to the surface is problematic and could be helpful.
And you’re right, I’ll keep pushing people to make good reports.
I still feel this is several separate issues.
If this is what they call realistic, they have never been in a plane ever. Literally you would not be able to get a private license if this is what real life were like. It would be too dangerous and everyone would crash.
I’m currently at 2,300 ft and seeing winds from 274 @ 21kts which is about 1,100 AGL. Seems a bit much for this altitude.
I dunno why it’s such a problem. It makes things more interesting and feels quite realistic to me.
That’s not unusual at all, but dependent on a lot of things. Where are you?
Flight ended up at 15G (Weltzien Skypark) in NE Ohio just northeast of Wooster and south of Cleveland.
Winds at 030 (3000’ AGL) are forecast to be 267@22 knots for the next few hours
Surface winds at KAKR (10 miles to the east) are currently 250@13 gusting to 25.
So I wouldn’t say this is errant.
I think a lot of folks are just finding out how tough it is to fly GA in the winter in the mid latitudes.
And yes I still think career mode winds and turb are sus, but it’s hard to know whether live weather being applied incorrectly, or nerfed in certain modes, or bugged, or people are just misinterpreting. Need more data.
To clarify my last, a lot of the discrepancies are borne of the wonky briefing UI, the live weather slider, and the EFB. None are really giving us a grounding in truth.
If I’m using live weather in the sim, I’m always using real-world aviation weather resources. They tend to be pretty correct, or close enough in most cases.
Career is not worth it in freelance mode. At least in employee mode you have the chance to complete the flight after the sim flips your plane over immediately after touchdown. Using your own airplane it will terminate the mission immediately. A one-star difficulty mission should not have 30+ knot crosswinds that swing more than 180 degrees in less than a second.
I have flown across the US today and it is basically 30 kt crosswind across the entire US consistent, west to east (ish). I am not a meteorologist, but that is sus.
As for turbulence, that is so bad and out of wack I don’t even know why we are discussing it. You don’t leave a 172 feeling like you just got out of a boxing match in real life.
I also want to state I am not against this weather. Having it once in a while would be fun, a challenge. However, real weather is not this bad for 60 hours across the entire US lol. All I’m asking for is realistic weather and this ain’t it, no matter how many excuses people want to make.
From where to where and at what altitude? “Across the USA” can mean so many things.
lol, tell me you haven’t flown a small airplane in moderate without telling me you haven’t flown a small airplane in moderate.
We know there are issues with weather, but if you’re going to make a claim in a bug thread, provide data. It’s easily verifiable. Otherwise it’ll just be dismissed.
Hey everyone! Someone in other post might have actually figured it out. If you want real weather with real winds and normal turbulence, you have to Fast Travel to the airport you are taking the job from. I tried it yesterday and even though the EFB reported it’s noon August 15th 2022, the weather was actually very close to what it was yesterday around the time I picked. Flew LKCS-LZZI at around 1000Z and at 9000ft the winds were from around north 25-30kts with temp of -11°C. Around the same as Windy was reporting at the time.
Temperature, cloud coverage, winds and temperatures at the flight altitude, all was there, and the turbulence was normal, no erratic wind changes etc.
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It’s that time of year, folks. The entire eastern half of the US has been pretty windy over the last couple days into today. There’s a strong low pressure system over Ontario and a trough developing in Colorado that are driving a lot of inclement weather, especially around the Great Lakes, Midwest, and Central Plains.
This is a common trope when flying in the US in the fall and winter months, especially in the mid to northern latitudes. I’m sure other mid latitude areas are affected similarly. The stronger parts of these storm systems will affect air travel pretty heavily, but even the weaker parts negatively affect light aircraft in particular - icing and wind being the main culprits. It stands to reason I have the lowest amount of real-world hours logged in November and December.
Here’s are the forecast winds currently in the eastern US (surface, 3000’, and 6000’, and 9000’ MSL, where most light aircraft live):
Note that winds almost always get stronger as you go up in altitude. I often cover the “why” in my streams, but it boils down to a layer of increased friction as you get closer to the surface.
But even the second shade on the surface winds are getting gusts into the upper teens and 20s, which can be difficult for light aircraft to negotiate.
There is still a lot of bugginess in how the sim is presenting weather, especially in career mode - telling us it’s this, when it’s actually that, is it “live” or not, things like that. I think turbulence is overblown a bit, especially as it interfaces with orographics (terrain) - a 6 knot wind generally doesn’t produce thousands of feet of mountain wave. But I haven’t seen any live winds in free flight mode that are very far off from reality.
I highly suggest before making an “awful wind” report that you go to a source of aviation weather and check to see what it is. In the US, I highly recommend www.aviationweather.gov (that’s where I got the pics above) as it’s an official source that pilots use and it’s generally pretty accurate.
Either way, this will perhaps educate, temper expectations, and allow devs to drill down to where it’s behaving incorrectly. And if you find its way off, please give a stamp with time, location, and altitude, because that allows folks to pretty easily verify if it’s a sim thing or if it’s an expectation thing.
This does not explain surface wind. This does not explain turbulence. This does not explain why the low areas in your images are not low in the game. You seem to have some incredible horse in this race. Perhaps your fear is they will nerf wind so hard it won’t be realistic anymore? Or maybe you are a so-called “hardcore”. I’m not sure what your motivations are. Wind is broken.
Yes, 30 kt cross winds happen, especially at altitude, and especially in winter, and the northern US. No, it is not a constant wind speed, at any elevation, and any position in the entire US. It is broken. Just because a clock is correct twice a day, does not mean the clock works. As far as turbulence, I honestly can’t fathom how anyone defends that. It’s so ridiculous I don’t know what to say. Turbulence is the clock that is never right, it has fallen apart completely.
The plural of anecdote is not data. Bring the evidence. You still haven’t elaborated where or when or how high your aircraft was.
And yes, it does explain surface wind and turbulence to an extent. But in your haste, you didn’t read that I accounted for turbulence being too high.
My motivation is I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about high winds aloft (not necessarily you) and they’re just unaware that’s how it usually is.
The wind hasn’t been different in four years. Maybe you’re getting some sort of anomaly (are you in the UK?), but I’m not worried about them nerfing it.
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