Wll Asobo remove Flight Log and Loading Circle with SU5?

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Thanks for sharing that, @geoffda..

On top is a quote of little me saying something different, but please see also this later submit.. it turned out this logbook popup did not have to do with passenger procedures on airports. I had assumed that, because my C152 landings were never bothered with it. I use Contol-Shift-E to shut off the engine.. apparently Asobo programmers do no regard that as end-of-procedure. If you switch off the radio, they do. Or certain throttle controls, they do. In fact you never know exactly when this logbook thing pops up in the sim to end your procedures ! that’s the issue ! At arbritary moments during your checkout procedure it can happen ! that of course is a bug.. so I fully agree with the opening and everyone should vote here,

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Interesting discussion
Two points:
I get the white circle and it used to scare the life out me as I thought a CTD was imminent but no everything just carries on , no freezing, stuttering so Asobo Please remove it as it serves NO purpose
Secondly, yes very annoying when doing a shut down procedure but if you use the blue taxi ribbon to find your gate it does get rid of that and the green box if you press continue
Sometimes in the FBW if I turn on APU it doesn’t do it, other times it does so it’s annoying
Oh finally , slightly off topic can you get rid of the blue box but keep the taxi ribbon when going to gate?

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I agree its very irritating, there must be a .cfg somewhere to turn it off. I wish they would give a meny item to disable it completely. I have zero interest in logged game time and dont need that popping up!

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I don’t know, but both of these need to be removed and should have no place in a modern “flight” simulator in 2020-21.

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This is a simulator, not a game, and turning off the aircraft correctly is one part of the simulation.

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Of course you could, in real life you often fly more than one sector. After parking a short turnaround and fly the next sector. I have even flown routes were it literally was engines off, passengers in or out, door close, engine start. Anyway there is no argument to have that thing pop-up.

Regarding realism, I have never seen my logbook pop-up automatically after flight :zany_face:. I don’t even know where it is, I update it once every few years when I really need it for something :joy:.

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The things I see people complaining about seems so ridiculous smh

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I am extremely concerned that some posters are saying things as “fact” when its very much at the moment their own opinion. Things such as “Most users dont like the Show Logbook on shutdown”. Unless a proper poll or reasearch across all or a representative population of users is done, that cannot be presented as fact.

It may indeed APPEAR that many users want to disable this feature, but that is usually because those who want change often shout the loudest, whilst the ones who are happy with things as are, do not speak up, or speak less loudly, after all they dont want change.

We have to sometimes be very rational about how we react when making sweeping changes. Of course we need to listen to those who need change, but bear in mind the saying “The loudest squeeking wheel gets the most attention”, and in this modern age where peoples voice can be heard (louder?) via Social Media, forums, etc, its more important that we still ensure that we are still largely democratic, to ensure that a very vocal minority doesnt unjestly inconvenience the silent majoirty.

Not saying its true in this case, as we dont really know how the proportion of users that do not like this popup vs those that do. I personally love the popup as it gives me important stats on that current flight/leg, and its just as easy to continue flyign the plane afterwards by hitting continue. It definately does not force ending of the flight.

I can also understand some users prefer it not to be there, especially if they are using tools like FS Economy, etc. So putting it as an option which by default is switched on i think is the best option, as newbies would probably need that at first, and can turn it off later.

However I woudl be very dissapointed if it is actually tuned off without any option to choose, as that woudl appear to be a kneejerk reaction.

Its the same story with the loading screen video, I know many were unhappy (I really didnt care either way), but for new players it is a nice introduction that is sadly now missing. And whilst I agree it can become old after a while, it was still nice for new users, so again shoudl have been an option of some sort, to be turned off after.

I am sure there are many other changes that also apply. And indeed where it gives a personal choice, I am all for it, but please do not make a change of something to please a vocal group without checking to see how happy the entire demographic is about the change, or at least make it a choice.

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Don’t come in here acting like this is something not worth complaining about. Of you take a close look at the title of this product it say “Microsoft Fight Simulator”. Simulator being the big part in that title.

For those of us who take the immersion or at least try to take to the fullest, this is a big issue because it kills that immersion.

Old FSX didn’t have anything like that, X plane doesn’t have anything like that, p3d doesn’t have it, so why does MSFS do???

It’s not something small we complaining about sir.

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I don’t think you’re digging deep enough to find trivial things to complain about. Get yourself a flashlight and a bigger shovel.

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This has nothing to do with immersion. Some of you guys just complain about the silliest of things. I’m in FB groups with 38k members and I’ve never seen anyone complain about the white circle that pops up every once in a while to indicate that something is happening in the background. If that kills immersion then I think it’s time to step away from the pc and go fly the real plane. Seems as if only the “real” simmers are complaining about everything. What’s next? The menus are too gamey?

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So a logbook popping up the moment you shutdown engines has nothing to do with immersion?? Ok sir.

Have a nice day!!

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No not even that is an immersion killer. When I’m done with my flight I usually go back to the main menu. Here’s a thought. Just pretend that it’s real life and when shut the plane down you take up your log book and write in it.

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Is there a thread somewhere to vote for the removal of the loading circle?

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In real life when you shut your engines down, you don’t pick up a log book right after. There are other things than need to be turned off and other procedures.

Clearly you don’t know this and I’m wasting my time.

Furthermore, can you imagine someone that has a full home cockpit set up and has to stop their shutdown procedure to move away and click continue on that flight log that pops up.

Smh!!!

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You just proved my point. It’s not real life. Relax and take a chill pill. You guys are complaining about the wrong things.

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To add a perspective that causes me to dislike the auto pop up of the end of flight prompt, is this …

You fly to a flight plan. You stop along the route as a rest stop. You currently can’t stop the aircraft after landing or it will kill the flight plan and you can’t go any further (unless you are prepared to manually enter the remainder of the plan into the G1000 or equivalent if it exists) if you don’t have an auto pilot then you have no way of following the remainder of the route using the VFR Map. Sure, you can follow using Little NavMap but if you are flying in VR this further complicates things.

I would also like the ability to spawn at any point in the flightplan without loosing the entered plan. There are a number of ‘issues’ of flexibility that need to be looked at but people seem comfortable with the way things work.

These issues don’t exist in the earlier simulators. I feel they are working to a level of player that would suit the casual gamer and not the experienced flight simmer.

To offer a workaround for Asobo. They already support different settings if you are playing on an Xbox, e.g., support for the Xbox controller. Why not detect if running on PC then offering options to turn off some features like the item we are discussing in this thread, to improve realism for more serious flight simmers.

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Agree, not a fan of turning the battery switch off and it popping up.

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“Simulator”!!!

Good day!!

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Exactly!! But yet, it seems unimportant to some folks.

This is supposed to be a simulator, not just a game.