Settings & Setup guide for the Tobii Eye Tracker 5

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Thank you for the help! Will try these.

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Thanks again ā€“ after using your exact numbers for my Tobii 5, it is much easier to navigate and use the switches/knobs without the camera ā€œjigglingā€ ā€“ appreciate it!

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Glad I could help :slight_smile:

Feel free to tweak further to your liking.

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Hi im having trouble with the Tobii eye tracker 5
i have installed all tobi software and calibrated no problem eye tracking is fine however when in the sim i switch on head tracking in the camera option and nothing happens
ive tried to assign buttons on my keyboard but get this code (you are trying to assign an action to a device that is not selected)

what am i doing wrong the tracker is working out of the sim

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Hi,

Have you read through this thread below - it has lots of helpful information. Once thing I can think off off the top of my head is did you have any other form of head tracking installed prior to Tobii like TrackIR, OpenTrack, FaceTrackNoIR?

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By default F12 setā€™s the Tobii camera position in MSFS ā€“ if youā€™ve changed this it might not help.

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If I move out of the MSFS window, Tobii removes itself from the controls screen and stops working in the sim. The only way to ā€œfixā€ it is to restart the sim, but since I use charts and checklists and etc on my flights, that isnā€™t really something that can be done every time. I have followed the instructions in the thread to the letter, multiple times, but nothing solves it. I tried it just now with the latest software updates, but nothing solves the issue. I donā€™t know if itā€™s related, but if I open the Tobii Experience app, it shows briefly a black screen with the loading icon, then it minimizes to the taskbar area. I can only access it one time if I quit the app and restart it. I have a ticket in with Tobii and Asobo, but I donā€™t expect it to be resolved. I was using FaceTrackNoIR but I uninstalled it, thinking maybe Tobii would have an update and it would work, but no. Itā€™s a shame, I really like having the feature built-in and I really like the extra eye tracking that FaceTrackNoIR doesnā€™t do, but I donā€™t know what else to do. Itā€™s frustrating.

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If you used FaceTrackNoIR, it can leave traces of plugins etc. that can cause issues. Perhaps a registry clean may help. Also check for any other associated programs like OpenTrack or similar.

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I find it hard to believe that something like that would cause the problems Iā€™m having. Conflicts, sure, but working fine until going to another window and back, Iā€™m not entirely sure. Even so, I did use Revo to uninstall FaceTrackNoIR and OpenTrack and clean out registry files. Still no dice.

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The Tobii 5 has arrived!
Will be looking through this topic tonight for hints, tips and important settings.
Canā€™t wait.

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Any Tobii 5 people in Sim Update 10 beta?

If you are, can you try something for me?

  1. Put your sim in Windowed mode (vs Fullscreen)
  2. Once in windowed mode, minimize the main MSFS window (i.e. minimize the window and go to your desktop)
  3. Maximize the MSFS window again ā€“ does your Tobii 5 stop working?

Iā€™ve been able to repro this 100% of the time, yet only have 2 other votes on it, so was just curious if others could try this.

Once I maximize my MSFS window, Tobii stops registering and itā€™s no longer showing in the controller options of MSFS ā€“ I have to fully restart the sim to get Tobii working again.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/tobii-5-eye-tracker-stops-working-in-windowed-mode-when-window-gets-minimized/529386/3

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Hi, just saw this! I am having the exact same issue, but in SU10 Beta. Anytime I minimize the MSFS window (in windowed mode), and then go back to MSFS, Tobii is completely gone and a full restart of the sim is the only way to get it back.

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I just got mine, and have had a quick 30 minute flight with it. The ability to look about is really handy, but I can say itā€™s not done my flying a lot of good. :joy:

I think I may have to disable the eye tracking because itā€™s really distracting. Every little glance I make, say at instruments on final causes the view to change then as I glance back up it makes me make unnecessary corrections.

Zooming in to make changes to a GPS is especially tricky. Letā€™s say I move my head forward to set OBS. I look at the OBS button, then move my mouse to click it, I then look to the knob to the right, and move my mouse over that. I now glance up to look at the angle of the display to see what I am setting it to, and that movement causes the mouse to move off of the knob, stopping me from adjusting it. Any interaction that needed twiddling one thing, while looking at another was prone for this.

Probably switching to the other interaction mode would also work, but I never got on with that, and prefer Legacy.

Setup was extremely easy, much more than I thought it would be. I suspect as your frame rate drops the head tracking will become more jarring, though for my test flight I specifically choose somewhere out in the American countryside where there was no PG, and at a smaller airport to see what best case was like.

I didnā€™t get any eye strain, or headaches from the IR illuminators, something which I had read about. I wonder if that really stems from having to crank your head about while trying to keep your eyes on the screen. I can see that causing muscle fatigue.

Overall Iā€™m really impressed. Iā€™ve not used a tracker since TrackIR 4, so Iā€™ll need to get used to it all over again.

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You will need to find the best Tobii config. settings that work for you.

I posted my settings earlier if you want to try them, but you can certainly tweak further.

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Thanks. I think disabling eye tracking entirely will be my first change tonight, as I have the headtracking working at an acceptable speed.

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Eyetracking makes it almost impossible to focus on instruments - Tobii is very sensitive and picks up the tiniest movements. I switch the level to prefer head tracking instead.

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Yes, I left it at the default of 85, and will have a go at 100 tonight. I did get a kick out of leaning in to my monitor, and craning my head left to look back at the threshold of the runway I was about to land at. I found a combination of the hatswitch for a much more course shift of view coupled with headtracking worked really well. So I would hatswitch shift to either left, or back left, and then tilt my head to the right. Itā€™s at least as smooth as I remember my TrackIR 4, and without any headgear needed.

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Yup, I switched mine to 100% head tracking for this very reason even though I do like the idea of eye tracking. I just find both unnecessary and stick to head tracking - mostly because I like to glance off screen at tablets with additional instruments and eye tracking would mean the camera jumping back and forth. With only head tracking, I can still glance at these tablets without moving the on screen view back and forth.

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Agreed with all of the above, very low or indeed off for the eye tracking and high in the head tracking.
I also set a reasonable deadzone, and toned down the sensitivity of the yaw and position settings.
Still tweaking as lowering those last two lost me a little in turning and looking up at the overhead panel, but helped me a lot in reducing twitchiness.

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Had an hour long flight tonight with eye tracking disabled, and it was like night, and day. It actually felt right in that configuration, like I had regained control of where I was looking. I can see this becoming invaluable on the base to final turn.

I found myself constantly fighting the urge to keep hitting the reset view button. I noticed that itā€™s quite often off a little bit when you return your head to the home position, but I also noticed the slow return to home as well, so over the flight I learned to trust it will right itself automatically.

What a great addon for the sim. :+1:

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