Tip for Nvidia Users- Check your 3D settings

[GuillaumeKun]

@DonSimone80

Now install reshade ontop

How do you do this? I assume you have a G2 too?

EDIT: found it Installing ReShade on MS Store version of the MSFS2020 via "ReshadeForUWP" program by MilkyDeveloper

[DonSimone80]

Thats the one, give it a try and see what you think. I have a config file which works great for fs2020. You will require additional shaders but I’ll send you the link.

[J00078]

Does reshade works in VR mode then ? I was under the assumption that it only works in 2D.

[MarcG888]

I always have my nVidia settings left at Default for MSFS since VR first appeared, except for capping FPS to 60 for the Menu otherwise my GPU is screaming (literally…) at full blast for no reason whatsoever!

[DonSimone80]

Sorry for not responding earlier unfortunately I don’t own VR so I’m really not sure, I should have mentioned all settings were tested on 2D only.

[J00078]

No problem. Thank’s for your answer.

[KevyKevTPA]

Same settings I had except I did not have performance set at max. I changed it just for giggles, but since SU5 practically has my GPU pegged at 100% as it it, I don’t expect to see any difference.

Then again, in the spirit of it’s as much voodoo as it is science, can’t hurt, no?

Kev

[CptLucky8]

To all:
Here is the topic about the NVidia CPL Anisotropic bug, and several side-by-side showing that FS2020 settings are doing what they are expected to:
PSA: NVidia Anisotropic Bug: in-game setting disabled (was: Some tests on Texture Resolution and Quality) - Community / General Discussion - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

@KevyKevTPA
Here are my latest Index setting for SU5 HF1 (for HF2, just change TLOD and OLOD back to 100%):
My 2070 SUPER VR settings and suggestions (Index - SteamVR) 🟢 - #547 by CptLucky8

And some more comments:

@CptLucky8

I’ve disabled Tex. SS for now because in previous versions I believed this was one important factor to fps degradations at airports, especially large ones with lots of markings on the ground. This is why I’m using Aniso 16x for now in order to compensate, and except the RWY center line, usually it is still bearable with the Index resolution.

Otherwise after many tests in earlier VR versions, the best setting I’ve found back then (visuals and perf) was Aniso 8x and Tex. SS 4x4. I’ve not really tried it yet with SU5!

@CptLucky8

One of the reasons behind 126% and 152% (+ FOV 95%) is that with the Index native panel resolution and lens distortion, it seems to me these are slightly enhancing aliasing compared for example to 125 and 150, compensating a little bit for the blurriness due to motion smoothing and/or FS2020 rendering. It is really subjective though but it seems it is striking a balance to me, enough to make barely legible middle EFIS small letters slightly more legible (but aliased).

@CptLucky8

I’ve done a few more tests yesterday about this. Motion smoothing is taking more resources and usually you can balance this out with fewer frames per sec (and artifacts of course).

With the 9700K+2070S I can barely push beyond 152% and 18fps with the Index and FS2020 with aircraft with lots of EFIS for example, like the FBW A320 (for this one I must go 15fps on ground but can switch back to 18fps in the air) (NB: I can push much higher with XP11 though)

What stroke me is how much FS2020 has a struggle when on ground, to the point I have to disable motion smoothing otherwise FS2020 is like rendering pairs of frames in reverse order (displaying frame 2 first, then frame 1 next, then frame 4, then frame 3 etc… this is what it looks like).

Yesterday I’ve tried the FBW A320 latest dev version but this time with motion smoothing off. I’ve been able to keep 30fps (SS 152% and all the rest unchanged) on the ground, and when up in the air 45fps, and this was not bad at all to me.

If you read this topic from the beginning and when VR was initially available, I was explaining how 30fps constant is still useable in practice with the A320 (not FBW back then) and after a while you get used to the juddering. It has been months though that I’m only using motion smoothing at 18fps so I go used to the artefacts instead! Switching back to motion smoothing off was slightly uncomfortable at first because of the juddering but at 45fps it was not so bad after a short while, especially if you develop the habit of rotating the head (reprojection kicking it) instead of translating it (juddering is unavoidable in this case).

This is a short feedback post to share the experience!

PS: about “FS2020 on ground taking too many resources while on ground to the point I have to disable motion smoothing”: this one is puzzling me still because in 2D I can see there is still enough room on the CPU/GPU. I’ve been wondering whether FS2020 wouldn’t be using the GPU in a way which is interfering with the Turing silicon the NVidia Optical Flow lib is using for motion smoothing. What I mean by this is that it is has if both FS2020 and Optical Flow are fighting for the card silicon, which could be the case if for example FS2020 would be using compute shaders for example and if those would take a longer processing time when on the ground (handling much more things). This is one area I’d really like to figuring out, at least just by mere curiosity for these sort of things!

PS: I’m not done yet adjusting for the Index, thus I’ve not tried the G2 with SU5 HF2 yet.

[GuillaumeKun]

@CptLucky8

I’ve not tried the G2 with SU5 HF2 yet.

Oh I can’t wait for this!
Thanks for this super detailed post as always!

[FubarSWE2020]

Oh, so waiting for your (CptLucky) updated recommendations for the G2!!!

[CptLucky8]

@GuillaumeKun @FubarSWE2020
If you compare my previous G2 and Index recommendations, you might see they are quite close already.

I suspect both the latest FS2020 settings I’ve posted a week ago with the Index, and the OXR settings I’ve posted for the G2 months ago, would most likely be good starting point to experiment with.

[Ess0ess]

Nvidia control panel at default, no issues.

[CptLucky8]

@Ess0ess

What I’ve found is that even if set at default, this doesn’t mean it is at default! (at least for the anisotropic settings). This really requires clicking the “RESTORE” button to reset everything and to be sure it is.

NB: I’ve had the same kind of bug a few months back, when I was using 457.30 but did try a newest one just to see whether it would be better. This was one of the newest driver with the “limit background window fps” and I’ve set it to 30 for FS2020 so that during loading, it wouldn’t take 100% GPU if I selected any other window. When I reverted the driver back to 457.30 in just installing over (NVidia recommended way), I realized the background window fps limiter was still set even if this older driver wasn’t offering this feature yet!

[FubarSWE2020]

I think you’re right that all settings doesn’t revert to default unless you do a ”reset”.

Another thing that I find, but it might be placebo…
If messing around with MSFS VR settings in order to test and find a smooth experience I eventually get a lot of stutters and need to dial back some values. This doesn’t really seem to restore the settings (even though under settings they are at the ”right” level) - it still stutters and is jerky. However, if I click ”default” under VR settings, and then set my higher values back and clicks apply/save it runs better.
Anyone else find this? Or am I imagining things…?

[mikemace777]

Clean install of MSFS and updated Windows and OXR. NVidia is 471.41. G2 + 3090 + i9 (5.3GHz). Nvidia CPL settings as per CptLucky8 of April (I think). Render settings 100/100. Repro off. Visual settings Ultra. Smooth flying and clear detail looking forward through windscreen. Looking out of side windows its jittery: maybe 2 or 3 frames. As discussed above, changing Aniso does not seem to have any effect on image and menu boxes have slightly jagged edges. Cockpit images clean and readable but could be a bit crisper for my liking. On the plus side, have ramped up render scaling in FS to 200. At this level no CTD but frames must be less than 10/sec. However at 150 seemed to be quite smooth over London. And load times are much quicker. So far its looking pretty good that a lot of negatives have been addressed. But still need to tweak and fine tune, presuming of course that there are no bugs. Continuing to experiment and will give these suggestions above a go. WIP.

Edit + 2hours - CPL set to default then relvant functions to Application to Decide. At first not a discernable change so I reset FS settings to default. Cleaned it up nicely and getting smooth and clear. (Cub at 1000ft) Render scaling 100/100. raised most settings to Ultra and sliders to 200. Left aniso and Tss at default. Still good. tried raising ansio and tss but seemed to degrade image. Also increasing render scaling >100 degraded clarity somewhat. Image not as good as 2d 4k but I think i’ve reached the limits of the G2 as far as clarity is concerned.

[RebuffedBee9595]

@FubarSWE2020

Another thing that I find, but it might be placebo…
If messing around with MSFS VR settings in order to test and find a smooth experience I eventually get a lot of stutters and need to dial back some values. This doesn’t really seem to restore the settings (even though under settings they are at the ”right” level) - it still stutters and is jerky. However, if I click ”default” under VR settings, and then set my higher values back and clicks apply/save it runs better.
Anyone else find this? Or am I imagining things…?

There does seem to be something weird going on… As per the thread below, some have found that ultra graphics settings are only applied after going down to low, hitting apply, and then going back to ultra. There is also suggestion that some settings are only being applied by the graphical Preset slider, and cannot be adjusted by the individual sliders (note we don’t actually have a Preset slider in VR!)

[BUG LOGGED] Settings do not stick since SU5

Do you have any add-ons in your Community folder? If yes, please remove and retest before posting. No, I did the test without any addons. Adding them all back does not change a thing. Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it? No Brief description of the issue: If I fire up MSFS, I check the menue and my settings are on “ultra”. However, starting a flight quickly shows that the settings are for sure NOT ultra. Switching to “medium”, clicking on “apply & save” and then back to “ultr…

[Kreuzman2]

I have been unable to successfully locate a list from Asobo that shows No Fly, Don’t use, un-recommended Apps. Can you post where I can find this please?

[GuillaumeKun]

@SeparatePack8

tried raising ansio and tss but seemed to degrade image.

that’s interesting…will give that a shot!

[KennyKanada]

Game changer for me was someone on the forums suggested downloading the Nvidia Studio driver, changing from the Gaming driver. Immediate huge difference with NO CTD’s anymore. Also changed aircraft to Legacy from Modern. Very smooth now and most of my peripherals work again.
(i7-10700, RTX3080, 32G)

[KevyKevTPA]

@Kreuzman2

Can you post where I can find this please?

Sure. You can find it here, though it has many more suggestions aside from the “Don’t use these 26 specific apps”.