There is no downgrade in SU5

Yes, hard to critique screenshots without offending someone. These screenshots look decent, they really do, but a far cry from what it should look like in High to ultra-settings. We have all witnessed what ultra-screenshots look like… once you achieve that certain aesthetic in this sim, there is no going back, and nothing else will do. Applying constructive criticism in a good way.

When systems that worked before hotfix and are now no longer working, Autopilot, ATC, weather, AI, controls, forced livery installs @ 1.5 gb, eyeballs showing on screen when you’re not 100% centered on switch or knob, XBOX landing ad on my PC…
One can argue about quaily of graphics all day but the sim doesnt function as it should. So now its a game that nags that my flight level isn’t as it shows on my gauge so I’ll expedite to just what the Xbox gamers do… jump in a vfr flight to buzz other planes and straff planes taking off from runway.

The amount of money iv paid out on a PC plus my flight gear since launch and right now it looks no better than having it on a Xbox…Sorry but its so wrong


You are right… but hopefully by next week at this time you will be wrong.

They’ve said it at least twice in the dev Q+A’s on Twitch. They said its just a case on increasing numbers in the config file, as we know since people are already doing it.

I so hope your right my man

We all do… they will absolutely find the perfect balance, or let us find it ourselves in the settings.

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Im glad you got the good end of the stick! I seriously am! Lots of people saw improvements, but you can’t speak for everyone. My performance and quality was horrible after the update. I uninstalled the other day. Nothing worked and i’ve been having issues with it for so long.

Yup! Intel I9, RTX 3080, 32Gb RAM, Purchased in last 6 month exclusively for MSFS. All my savings gone. I really, really didnt need that power for anything else.
I feel like a ■■■■■ now, as I could invest only $500 for a console.


Just posted “Currently, the team is working on a formal communication regarding the recent issues - while it is not ready to go yet, once it is, you can check it out in the News and Announcements section.”

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I tried to put my LOD to 400 and my FPS dropped to 5.


then sell your pc and do it.

I feel ya bro i really do

Again, there are a lot of Band-Aids by users ATM. We have to wait for the developers to fix the bugs.

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I’m on your bus (well plane) @Hugothester

I’ve done some screenshots for those looking for top down views in SU5. These are on LOD 400/400 in line with @Hugothester post at the top.

35,000 feet near New York:

35,000 ft in Northern Africa

35,000 ft in Papua New Guinea

7,000 ft near Gatwick

35,000ft over Milan

35,000 ft over Monaco

(someone mentioned its only blurry if you look out the window)

Vancouver at 28,000 feet

I also did a post here around changing the Object LOD distance because there is a tower at HKKI airport where with 200/200 LOD set you can only see the light on the top of the tower and not the tower itself starting from runway 24

I’ve also seena few posts today/yesterday where autogen scenery is not being drawn or not being drawn properly (and probably photogrammetry too for some people, although I’ve personally not seen that). Here are two examples:



I’m strongly suspecting that these issues are either a problem with the UK world update data or a server side problem. I don’t think these are neecessarily related to SU5

Whilst we are on that subject, here is an excellent post by @Sharpex95 on workarounds and how to get the best from the new UI options. I strongly recomment anyone with issues with the UI reads this post


It is a bug, but the lag of volumetric lighting is definitely a downgrade at the moment,
maybe that is the main reason many of us perceive worse quality in graphics.

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Thats so wrong we want what we had before the Xbox release

there is indeed the LOD strongly decreased, but concerning the screenshots, we must not have the same graphic quality or I don’t know but for me it’s better than you

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Agree to disagree. It’s not just on these threads by a select few… Some of the threads have over 6,000 views and comments (whereas in the past, as you know, we’ve not seen it that bad). Even outside of the forums, there are articles, tweets, facebook posts, reddit users, etc. It’s clear, this isn’t a well received sim update. That’s not to say the improvements or performance aren’t great. I don’t think “most” of us are saying that – we’re saying “to what cost” though? Visuals just don’t look as well.

Outside of the pop-in/culling/LOD argument, volumetric lighting has been removed so now when you fly at night time, it looks like I’m flying in pitch black and the airport lights look like an arcade. I just don’t think it looks as good as it used to.


Why are there pixilated clouds on ultra when there weren’t before SU5?